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Title: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on June 30, 2015, 05:50:51 PM
Now that I have your attention...:laugh:

I thought I would share the process involved for just one single item - cleaning and packing Homepin pinball balls.

First we needed some packing and, as nothing was available that really suited, we made our own. We started by drawing up the ball packing layout and then cutting the mould in the CNC machine, the mould was then placed in our vacuum forming machine and loaded up with balls:

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(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls2.jpg)(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls4.jpg)

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls7.jpg)(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls8.jpg)

Then we used 0.35mm plastic sheet in the machine to form the packing shells:

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls6.jpg)(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls5.jpg)

Then the formed sheets are cut to size in the foot guillotine:

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls9.jpg)

Then we polish and inspect each ball individually and pack them in bags of eight with a few drops of light machine oil and Sid made up a few trial boxes to make sure all fitted OK before handing the job on to the staff to complete:

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls1.jpg)(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls10.jpg)

The labels go on and cleaning cloth inserted ready for packing and shipping out and protected by the light machine oil for years if necessary in this packing:

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls12.jpg)(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls13.jpg)

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls3.jpg)(http://www.homepin.com/pics/balls11.jpg)

These are available now from The Pinball Warehouse in Brisbane and from other pinball outlets in time (as containers arrive).

Here is a short video showing our vacuum forming machine in action making this packing. It is pretty fast as it is semi-automatic and each sheet takes less than a minute to make:

I can NEVER get the Youtube links to work here on AP? try the link below.

http://youtu.be/r0bGUi-t0SI
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Post by: Blktgr74 on June 30, 2015, 06:29:10 PM
You don't do anything by halves.  Can't wait to see Thunderbirds with your attention to detail.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on June 30, 2015, 06:50:28 PM
A follow up: packing is progressing well!

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/packingballs.jpg)
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Post by: Strangeways on June 30, 2015, 06:53:52 PM

I can't wait to get my hands on your balls  ^^^

 <.>  %.% %.% %.%
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Cursed on June 30, 2015, 06:55:56 PM
What Nino said...... &&

This is great news and timing for me.  ^^^
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Post by: Strangeways on June 30, 2015, 07:08:57 PM
Thankfully there is a drop of machine oil. Nothing worse than Itchy Balls

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Post by: swinks on June 30, 2015, 07:45:39 PM
nice work Mike  ^^^
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Post by: turbo27 on June 30, 2015, 07:47:40 PM
How much for your big box of balls
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Post by: andypinboy on June 30, 2015, 08:37:57 PM
I'll be buying these by the pallet. What Turbo asked?
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Post by: Cursed on August 14, 2015, 08:00:58 PM
My (not so) old ball on the right, Homepin's awesome ball on the left. Flash killed a bit of the detail but the difference was very obvious!


(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o780/Cursed1_/20150814_133818_zpsjj4tubpm.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/Cursed1_/media/20150814_133818_zpsjj4tubpm.jpg.html)


Thanks again Mike!
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on August 14, 2015, 09:13:15 PM
Thanks for the great feedback guys.

The first shipment of balls to Australia have all but sold out.

I am very impressed with how well they have stood up and I have had several emails describing the hammering some have deliberately given them to prove the balls worth!

STOP PRESS:

Just when you thought they couldn't get any better - we have been experimenting with super polishing a small batch.

This involves a significantly extended polishing period that exceeds the polishing we give the Premium balls by ten times.

The finish between Premiums and the new Homepin Pearls is very obvious, even to the naked eye!

The extended labour and machine time will increase the price on these BUT I'm sure that the Premiums will remain the best seller.

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/HP_Pearls.jpg)
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Strangeways on August 14, 2015, 10:53:41 PM
My (not so) old ball on the right, Homepin's awesome ball on the left. Flash killed a bit of the detail but the difference was very obvious!


(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o780/Cursed1_/20150814_133818_zpsjj4tubpm.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/Cursed1_/media/20150814_133818_zpsjj4tubpm.jpg.html)


Thanks again Mike!

Look at the reflection of the ceiling light in both balls. There is a massive difference.

Thanks for the great feedback guys.

The first shipment of balls to Australia have all but sold out.

I am very impressed with how well they have stood up and I have had several emails describing the hammering some have deliberately given them to prove the balls worth!

STOP PRESS:

Just when you thought they couldn't get any better - we have been experimenting with super polishing a small batch.

This involves a significantly extended polishing period that exceeds the polishing we give the Premium balls by ten times.

The finish between Premiums and the new Homepin Pearls is very obvious, even to the naked eye!

The extended labour and machine time will increase the price on these BUT I'm sure that the Premiums will remain the best seller.

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/HP_Pearls.jpg)

Great news mike.

The 30 Boxes of balls delivered to RTBB 2 weeks ago are down to the last TWO boxes. Since they arrived, not one of the other balls have sold even one !

I have not had much feedback as yet. But they keep selling !
Title: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: GORGAR 1 on August 14, 2015, 11:20:59 PM
I have Been using Mike's balls in my KISS and they've played over 300 games and there still like new.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: andypinboy on August 15, 2015, 08:54:41 AM
The oh so obvious qn - pricing of Pearls vs Prems? And date of RTBB stocking these?
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Post by: solar value on August 15, 2015, 09:44:12 AM
Love the label on the Pearls, well done.

Oh, and I see that you finished a Lowboy:

https://www.facebook.com/HomepinPinball/photos/pcb.876350385774305/876350295774314/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/HomepinPinball/photos/pcb.876350385774305/876350295774314/?type=1&theater)

Looks great, you are kicking goals, any news about how the Thunderbirds machine is progressing?
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Cursed on August 15, 2015, 09:47:50 AM
Great news Mike, very interested in your pearls. And I thought your premiums looked good, can't wait to see the pearls.

Had a hit on the three machines I put them in last night and they play smooth as silk! I could really tell the difference.
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Post by: MrMaloo on August 15, 2015, 01:52:26 PM
Look great Mike . Any chance you'll be bringing some Pearl balls to Pinfest ? I'll grab a couple of boxes if you do .
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Strangeways on August 16, 2015, 07:53:03 PM
Already out of stock - over 40 boxes sold. Damn - I didn't even keep one for myself (KISS LE)..
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on August 16, 2015, 07:53:59 PM
Already out of stock - over 40 boxes sold. Damn - I didn't even keep one for myself (KISS LE)..

More on the way soon........... %.%
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Post by: PinPal on August 16, 2015, 08:31:48 PM
Put them in all my games Mike  ^^^
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Post by: Homepin on August 17, 2015, 05:33:19 PM
(http://www.homepin.com/pics/Ball_Poster1.jpg)
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Post by: intopins on August 17, 2015, 07:54:15 PM
Never seen so much advertising over pinballs!!  2 pages for ...sake.

Wonder if this is to distract everyone from your lack of updates on what you should really be doing....??

Thunderbirds ring a bell?
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on August 17, 2015, 07:59:58 PM
Never seen so much advertising over pinballs!!  2 pages for ...sake.

Wonder if this is to distract everyone from your lack of updates on what you should really be doing....??

Thunderbirds ring a bell?



......and is that any of your business somehow?
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Post by: intopins on August 17, 2015, 09:21:33 PM
Never seen so much advertising over pinballs!!  2 pages for ...sake.

Wonder if this is to distract everyone from your lack of updates on what you should really be doing....??

Thunderbirds ring a bell?



......and is that any of your business somehow?

Lol, quality reply. Expected nothing less.  ^^^ () $!&
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on August 17, 2015, 09:26:04 PM
Never seen so much advertising over pinballs!!  2 pages for ...sake.

Wonder if this is to distract everyone from your lack of updates on what you should really be doing....??

Thunderbirds ring a bell?



......and is that any of your business somehow?

Lol, quality reply. Expected nothing less.  ^^^ () $!&

As far as I am aware I am not obligated to you to provide any updates on any projects I am working on but please 'do tell' if you believe I am somehow?
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Post by: andypinboy on August 17, 2015, 10:05:32 PM
Moderator!!!  %.%  I for one like the advertising - cool colouring - not that it's needed as Mike's balls seem to sell themselves  *%*
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Post by: GORGAR 1 on August 17, 2015, 11:02:02 PM
Hey Mike will Tony @ the pinball shed be stocking the pearls also?
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on August 17, 2015, 11:12:34 PM
Hey Mike will Tony @ the pinball shed be stocking the pearls also?

Yes indeed. they will be shipped out of here mid to late next week all going well.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on August 18, 2015, 12:21:37 PM
Shock, HORROR! Yet, ANOTHER post about pinball balls - who would have thought?



The first full batch of Homepin Pearls ready for final hand polishing. They are VERY hard to photograph!


(http://www.homepin.com/pics/pearlsbatch1.jpg)


(http://www.homepin.com/pics/pearlsbatch2.jpg)
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Post by: GORGAR 1 on August 18, 2015, 01:02:31 PM
Shock, HORROR! Yet, ANOTHER post about pinball balls - who would have thought?



The first full batch of Homepin Pearls ready for final hand polishing. They are VERY hard to photograph!


(http://www.homepin.com/pics/pearlsbatch1.jpg)


(http://www.homepin.com/pics/pearlsbatch2.jpg)

LIKE
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Post by: intopins on August 18, 2015, 01:45:02 PM
Wow....so amazed at how great your pinball are....wow....look at me......wow....amazed......wow....pinballs......wow.....i am so great at pr......wow.....pinballs.... ^^^ () %.%
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Post by: intopins on August 18, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
Never seen so much advertising over pinballs!!  2 pages for ...sake.

Wonder if this is to distract everyone from your lack of updates on what you should really be doing....??

Thunderbirds ring a bell?



......and is that any of your business somehow?

Lol, quality reply. Expected nothing less.  ^^^ () $!&

As far as I am aware I am not obligated to you to provide any updates on any projects I am working on but please 'do tell' if you believe I am somehow?

wow.....pinballs.......wow......look at me.......wow.......pinballs........ %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.%

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Post by: Strangeways on August 18, 2015, 03:16:08 PM
Is it school holidays already ?

They look great Mike. I'll take the ones on the left. So start counting... one, two, three..  @@^
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Post by: intopins on August 18, 2015, 09:01:23 PM
They look ok...but for me, I prefer to source all my pinball parts from the U.S. Even with the bad dollar I have found that they come in cheaper and generally better quality that can come out of China or anywhere else for that matter.

Pinball life for me personally, but good luck Micky Mike, I'll stick with the pinballs that are best.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on August 18, 2015, 09:04:25 PM
They look ok...but for me, I prefer to source all my pinball parts from the U.S. Even with the bad dollar I have found that they come in cheaper and generally better quality that can come out of China or anywhere else for that matter.

Pinball life for me personally, but good luck Micky Mike, I'll stick with the pinballs that are best.

Hahahahah - you don't even realise that the balls you are buying from the good old USA ARE actually made in China - hahahahahahaha (yes, I have seen the packaging BEFORE they remove the "Made in China" label) - I guess some people are just easily fooled!

So it's clear here - practically ALL of your flipper mechs, legs, coin doors and zillions of other parts are made right here in China and shipped to the USA.

One supplier (Suzo Happ) makes a large percentage of the bits in Zhuhai not far from my factory - I have visited and seen it all for myself so keep on dreaming (well, I know you are just deliberately trying to stir me but keep it up - your comments get lamer all the time)
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Post by: Brunswick Brawler on August 18, 2015, 09:26:37 PM
Shock, HORROR! Yet, ANOTHER post about pinball balls - who would have thought?

The first full batch of Homepin Pearls ready for final hand polishing. They are VERY hard to photograph!

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/pearlsbatch2.jpg)

A near mirror reflection of the camera.  But I was more impressed with a closer look at what is not obvious in this photo...

Have a look at the reflection from ball to ball - you can see a few layers into the box, by looking at the top balls alone.  So what is so impressive about that - I'm glad you asked!

With each reflection, the image is slightly blurred/dispersed.  So a multiple reflection would bring out multiple blurring as well as a darker reflection.  It's a nice visual affect.

I'd love to see a photo with a bright torch lighting up the inside of the box, but out of the camera shot.

Disclaimer:  I have no idea how this photo compares to a bucket of standard balls.


PS
I have to add: While some are 'nicely' discussing who has the shiniest balls, let it be known that whilst my balls have no shine, but I have the biggest balls! !^!  
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Post by: andypinboy on August 19, 2015, 09:58:46 AM
Remember also these photos are pre final hand polishing (so I assume they are effectively "premiums" at this stage?).

I dunno about Micky Mike, but wasn't Mikey Mike a singer or musical artist of some kind?
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Post by: Homepin on August 19, 2015, 10:19:19 AM
Remember also these photos are pre final hand polishing (so I assume they are effectively "premiums" at this stage?).

I dunno about Micky Mike, but wasn't Mikey Mike a singer or musical artist of some kind?

These have had four EXTRA days polishing over Premiums at this point before we hand polish them
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Post by: swinks on August 19, 2015, 10:27:14 AM
I agree a mass of the ball bearings are probably made in China but there are still many companies in the US, Japan and Europe making precision products wanting top quality ball bearings. European & Japanese CNC's and car manufacturers use high end bearings not the crap from china. At the end of the day a pinball bearing is selected from a range of bearing available and doubt a custom made ball. A while back I investigated getting a US bearing company to make a bearing and then specially ceramic treat it for lasting shine and achieve different colours but didn't proceed due to the minimum order size.

http://www.americanbearings.org/?page=memberlisting

So it is possible that Pinball Life is using American Made bearings

But given Mike is overseeing the process and specifying the material type and finish then I think they will be just as good as any high quality bearings as it comes down to quality control and Chinese bearings are known for their inconsistent sizes and impurities.

Out of interest Mike what is the material used for you premiums and pearls?
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Post by: Homepin on August 19, 2015, 11:01:41 AM
Balls coming from the USA at retail of $1 each are most definitely NOT made in the USA I can guarantee that. Even in massive quantities there is no way that I can buy them anywhere near that price from the USA (I tried).

I have seen boxes of balls supplied by a well known USA pinball parts seller that very clearly have a "Made in China" sticker glued to each box (when sold retail in Australia the seller won't show you the box they come in). I also have a pack of "high end" specialty balls right here on my desk that cost about $9 a ball!! The package clearly states "Made in China".

People are deluding themselves if they think Pinball balls are made in the USA. They simply are not.

Anyway.............

Here are 12 boxes of Homepin Premium balls with 336 balls per box = 4032 Premium balls ready to ship out.
As an interesting point, they weigh 80 grams each so that trolley has 1/3 of a tonne on it!!!

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/4032.jpg)
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Post by: Boots on August 19, 2015, 11:12:22 AM
They look ok...but for me, I prefer to source all my pinball parts from the U.S. Even with the bad dollar I have found that they come in cheaper and generally better quality that can come out of China or anywhere else for that matter.

Pinball life for me personally, but good luck Micky Mike, I'll stick with the pinballs that are best.

Hmmm, not sure what the ones they are supplying now are like but a couple of years ago I bought some from them and had a big problem with them going rusty really fast.
I had previously bought some from PBR without any problems so back then I decided not to buy balls from Pinballife again.
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Post by: Caveoftreasures on August 19, 2015, 11:20:18 AM
Any balls I bought from a few USA companies over the last few years and a Aussie seller from Melbourne had a light machine grease in the bag of balls.

As soon as the grease was polished off and the balls were given a few dozen games, the balls were starting to pit n rust very quickly.

I am in the process of organising to replace every ball in every machine I have with new balls and will contact mike cause the order will be 50 x 3, 4 or 5 balls per machine etc.

All the balls in my machines are either original balls from donkeys years ago or 3 or more years old.
Time for a complete swap out.
Mikes the man for a big custom order of 250 balls etc.
Even with shipping from China it will kill any quote from the USA and supporting Mike is something I feel is important for the Aussie pinball hobby.
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Post by: Brunswick Brawler on August 19, 2015, 08:50:31 PM
Some of this thread missed a the fundamental point.  It is irrelevant where the balls are made.  All that counts is "quality, cost and schedule".

How good are they, what do they cost, and how long do you have to wait for them.  Then as Cavey adds, some of us would factor in, or not, support of a local; even if their business is off-shore.

...It doesn't matter if a Chinese person or an American person polished your balls. 


Any estimate of what the pearls would retail for in Aus? 
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on August 19, 2015, 08:55:07 PM



Any estimate of what the pearls would retail for in Aus? 

The suggested RRP is:

Premiums (8 pack) $15.00
Pearls (8 pack) $25.00

Naturally it is up to individual sellers exactly what they sell them for.
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Post by: pinsanity on August 19, 2015, 09:51:46 PM
How good are they, what do they cost, and how long do you have to wait for them.  Then as Cavey adds, some of us would factor in, or not, support of a local; even if their business is off-shore.

...It doesn't matter if a Chinese person or an American person polished your balls. 

Patriotism ends at my hip pocket, just ask AMD.  #@#

Here are 12 boxes of Homepin Premium balls with 336 balls per box = 4032 Premium balls ready to ship out.

How much for a full box at wholesale plus shipping to AU?

Not for resale, personal consumption.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on August 19, 2015, 10:07:47 PM
How good are they, what do they cost, and how long do you have to wait for them.  Then as Cavey adds, some of us would factor in, or not, support of a local; even if their business is off-shore.

...It doesn't matter if a Chinese person or an American person polished your balls.  

Patriotism ends at my hip pocket, just ask AMD.  #@#

Here are 12 boxes of Homepin Premium balls with 336 balls per box = 4032 Premium balls ready to ship out.

How much for a full box at wholesale plus shipping to AU?

Not for resale, personal consumption.


Shipping on their own is completely out of the question. As part of an existing container sure, they are simply too heavy to send as a consignment on their own to be cost effective.

Anyone wanting large quantities would be best served by talking to Nino or Tony or John and do a deal.
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Post by: pinsanity on August 19, 2015, 10:58:52 PM
How good are they, what do they cost, and how long do you have to wait for them.  Then as Cavey adds, some of us would factor in, or not, support of a local; even if their business is off-shore.

...It doesn't matter if a Chinese person or an American person polished your balls.  

Patriotism ends at my hip pocket, just ask AMD.  #@#

Here are 12 boxes of Homepin Premium balls with 336 balls per box = 4032 Premium balls ready to ship out.

How much for a full box at wholesale plus shipping to AU?

Not for resale, personal consumption.


Shipping on their own is completely out of the question. As part of an existing container sure, they are simply too heavy to send as a consignment on their own to be cost effective.

Anyone wanting large quantities would be best served by talking to Nino or Tony or John and do a deal.

No problems, I have the ability to do an LCL consignment from China but in reality it just isn't worth the potential saving and paperwork involved.

I really just wanted to clarify that those claiming to be making bulk purchases (>200 balls) directly from you are most likely unfamiliar with the logistics involved, the realities of the supply chain and pre-existing commercial agreements on a local level.

As suggested, I will contact Strangeways (RTBB) for pricing on a bulk order instead.
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Post by: Strangeways on August 20, 2015, 12:12:41 AM
How good are they, what do they cost, and how long do you have to wait for them.  Then as Cavey adds, some of us would factor in, or not, support of a local; even if their business is off-shore.

...It doesn't matter if a Chinese person or an American person polished your balls.  

Patriotism ends at my hip pocket, just ask AMD.  #@#

Here are 12 boxes of Homepin Premium balls with 336 balls per box = 4032 Premium balls ready to ship out.

How much for a full box at wholesale plus shipping to AU?

Not for resale, personal consumption.


Shipping on their own is completely out of the question. As part of an existing container sure, they are simply too heavy to send as a consignment on their own to be cost effective.

Anyone wanting large quantities would be best served by talking to Nino or Tony or John and do a deal.

No problems, I have the ability to do an LCL consignment from China but in reality it just isn't worth the potential saving and paperwork involved.

I really just wanted to clarify that those claiming to be making bulk purchases (>200 balls) directly from you are most likely unfamiliar with the logistics involved, the realities of the supply chain and pre-existing commercial agreements on a local level.

As suggested, I will contact Strangeways (RTBB) for pricing on a bulk order instead.

Happy to help out in regard to your requirements. PM for details  ^^^
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Post by: pinball god on August 20, 2015, 12:58:29 AM
Wholesalers/manufacturers need to look after their distributors regardless of what quantities a consumer wants otherwise enjoy retail work in dealing with the hardball idiot end user one can find from time to time. Mike has found some in the past and I am sure he'd be happy for someone else to deal with that market as well as him being loyal and true to his word to his distributors
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Post by: Caveoftreasures on August 20, 2015, 01:07:58 AM
It's great Mike has distributors in Australia.
The shipping point made is correct, the weight of the balls in large quantity are only cost effective via seafreight in a shared container.

The last time I bought a few hundred balls from Melb, they got delivered by TNT and dropped at a semi trailer depot and picked up from the depot cause any other way is too expensive.

Supporting Mike and his dealers to me is the most important part of it all.
Playing my pins n seeing good quality balls supplied from a friend would add happiness to the playing experience.
It's only a small thing but sometimes the small things count the most.
Well done Mike and Nino on supplying n stocking this product.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Homepin on August 20, 2015, 10:17:06 AM
Brett, I have arranged a special deal for you through one of my Homepin parts distributors for one box of balls. They will be in Brisbane in about a month and, at this stage, are reserved for you.

Please do not feel obligated to take them by any means as they will sell to others if you change your mind.

I will forward more details to you when they arrive.



It's great Mike has distributors in Australia.
The shipping point made is correct, the weight of the balls in large quantity are only cost effective via seafreight in a shared container.

The last time I bought a few hundred balls from Melb, they got delivered by TNT and dropped at a semi trailer depot and picked up from the depot cause any other way is too expensive.

Supporting Mike and his dealers to me is the most important part of it all.
Playing my pins n seeing good quality balls supplied from a friend would add happiness to the playing experience.
It's only a small thing but sometimes the small things count the most.
Well done Mike and Nino on supplying n stocking this product.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: pinball god on August 20, 2015, 10:51:08 AM
Are you saying me putting all my worn out pinball stuff into a tumbler and selling them as new is not the right thing to do? What about using pcb cleaners and selling boards as nos, is that ok  #@# Next they'll bring out a law in which its illegal to wind back your speedo or re-groove car tyres. What's the world coming to I say .

Burying your wife in the back yard and not telling anyone; that's ok right? If not I may have to re-think things  <.>
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: andypinboy on August 20, 2015, 11:11:56 AM
Are you saying me putting all my worn out pinball stuff into a tumbler and selling them as new is not the right thing to do? What about using pcb cleaners and selling boards as nos, is that ok  #@# Next they'll bring out a law in which its illegal to wind back your speedo or re-groove car tyres. What's the world coming to I say .

Burying your wife in the back yard and not telling anyone; that's ok right? If not I may have to re-think things  <.>

He - "I used to love her but I had to kill her". Sure that's fine!  I'm interested to see what the Pearls actually retail for in Oz.

And good to see the "bulk order direct from China" idea put to bed with use of sanity.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Slash on August 20, 2015, 11:55:09 AM

He - "I used to love her but I had to kill her".
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Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: pinsanity on August 20, 2015, 07:21:01 PM
Happy to help out in regard to your requirements. PM for details  ^^^

Thanks Strangeways.

I know you will be able to come up with something special pricewise.

Will contact shortly.  ^^^

Are you saying me putting all my worn out pinball stuff into a tumbler and selling them as new is not the right thing to do? What about using pcb cleaners and selling boards as nos, is that ok  #@# Next they'll bring out a law in which its illegal to wind back your speedo or re-groove car tyres. What's the world coming to I say .

Burying your wife in the back yard and not telling anyone; that's ok right? If not I may have to re-think things  <.>

He - "I used to love her but I had to kill her". Sure that's fine!  I'm interested to see what the Pearls actually retail for in Oz.

And good to see the "bulk order direct from China" idea put to bed with use of sanity.

ACDC should have done a cover of that song.  &&

Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Caveoftreasures on August 25, 2015, 11:21:37 AM
Brett, I have arranged a special deal for you through one of my Homepin parts distributors for one box of balls. They will be in Brisbane in about a month and, at this stage, are reserved for you.

Please do not feel obligated to take them by any means as they will sell to others if you change your mind.

I will forward more details to you when they arrive.



It's great Mike has distributors in Australia.
The shipping point made is correct, the weight of the balls in large quantity are only cost effective via seafreight in a shared container.

The last time I bought a few hundred balls from Melb, they got delivered by TNT and dropped at a semi trailer depot and picked up from the depot cause any other way is too expensive.

Supporting Mike and his dealers to me is the most important part of it all.
Playing my pins n seeing good quality balls supplied from a friend would add happiness to the playing experience.
It's only a small thing but sometimes the small things count the most.
Well done Mike and Nino on supplying n stocking this product.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: pinsanity on January 29, 2016, 04:17:42 PM
Some of this thread missed a the fundamental point.  It is irrelevant where the balls are made.  All that counts is "quality, cost and schedule".

How good are they, what do they cost, and how long do you have to wait for them. 

...It doesn't matter if a Chinese person or an American person polished your balls. 

Since the product has now been recalled due to quality issues I'd say where they were manufactured has turned out to be extremely relevant.

Title: Re: Pinball ball issues / recall ?
Post by: swinks on January 30, 2016, 09:58:33 AM
more for the guys that bought these balls (Homepin brand), it has been brought up on Pinside very recently but couldn't find a announcement on here (AP) that these balls were recalled back in September last year but only from the distributors, so it seems not made public.

the reason I think people need to know is that an aussie recently discovered the balls started to flake and chip apart leaving metal flakes in the game which would damage the playfield and seems more so for games with magnets

So not to rub salt in wounds or rock the boat but it it means damage could be caused to you playfield, so if you have these maybe best to replace with another brand for the moment.
Title: Re: Pinball ball issues / recall ?
Post by: Retropin on January 30, 2016, 10:22:42 AM
more for the guys that bought these balls (Homepin brand), it has been brought up on Pinside very recently but couldn't find a announcement on here (AP) that these balls were recalled back in September last year but only from the distributors, so it seems not made public.

the reason I think people need to know is that an aussie recently discovered the balls started to flake and chip apart leaving metal flakes in the game which would damage the playfield and seems more so for games with magnets

So not to rub salt in wounds or rock the boat but it it means damage could be caused to you playfield, so if you have these maybe best to replace with another brand for the moment.

That's the Pearls.. the other type supplied magnetise if your game has magnets so again, not suitable for use
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: swinks on January 30, 2016, 10:29:46 AM
but if people don't know, then damage could happen, people just need to be informed
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Strangeways on January 30, 2016, 10:31:58 AM
RTBB was the distributor at that time.

Premium balls were "sold out" prior to us receiving an email that there were reported problems with magnetism. We were asked to refund any customers that complained. We followed directions. Future refunds need to be forwarded directly to Homepin.

Pearl balls were never stocked by RTBB. We understand there is an issue with "flaking".

We are not aware of any manufacturer's "product recall" on either Premium or Pearls. We were instructed to "hold off" selling Premiums, and we did not order any Pearls for sale.
Title: Re: Pinball ball issues / recall ?
Post by: pinsanity on January 30, 2016, 09:51:41 PM
more for the guys that bought these balls (Homepin brand), it has been brought up on Pinside very recently but couldn't find a announcement on here (AP) that these balls were recalled back in September last year but only from the distributors, so it seems not made public.

the reason I think people need to know is that an aussie recently discovered the balls started to flake and chip apart leaving metal flakes in the game which would damage the playfield and seems more so for games with magnets

So not to rub salt in wounds or rock the boat but it it means damage could be caused to you playfield, so if you have these maybe best to replace with another brand for the moment.

Maybe a bit of salt is what is needed when you pay for a 5 star meal but get served grey imported flake and chips instead.

I notice the "manufacturer" hasn't logged in to AP for a month either. It makes you empathise with the local distros who get left to deal with the fallout and provide an explanation.

Glad I opted to buy my boxload of premium balls from PBL instead. Even with shipping costs you can't put a price on peace of mind and quality assurance.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: GORGAR 1 on January 30, 2016, 10:29:12 PM
Been using my premium balls from Homepin/pinball shed and there still great no dramas here. The pinball life balls where crap hope Mikes sorts it out :)
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: pinsanity on January 30, 2016, 10:42:47 PM
RTBB was the distributor at that time.

Which balls does RTBB stock currently?
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Cursed on January 30, 2016, 10:46:36 PM
Been using my premium balls from Homepin/pinball shed and there still great no dramas here. The pinball life balls where crap hope Mikes sorts it out :)

Same! long as they are in pinballs with no magnets they are fine, still look good as well.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: Strangeways on January 30, 2016, 11:12:05 PM
RTBB was the distributor at that time.

Which balls does RTBB stock currently?

Pinballlife standard and premium. We have 100's of each in transit, or on order. No other supplier's balls.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: pinsanity on January 30, 2016, 11:37:14 PM
RTBB was the distributor at that time.

Which balls does RTBB stock currently?

Pinballlife standard and premium. We have 100's of each in transit, or on order. No other supplier's balls.

Good to hear.  ^^^

Terry at PBL always sources the best quality and have never read any valid complaints about his product.

They also work in games with magnets which is apparently a bonus rather than an expectation.
Title: Re: Look at my BALLS! Have a look at just how much work!
Post by: swinks on January 31, 2016, 07:16:09 AM
RTBB was the distributor at that time.

Which balls does RTBB stock currently?

Pinballlife standard and premium. We have 100's of each in transit, or on order. No other supplier's balls.

wish I knew, just ordered some from PBL, next order