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Title: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: swinks on October 14, 2016, 07:29:50 AM
Pat Lawler is very close to releasing his new game which will be JJP's 3rd game, and at the moment all we know is that it will be a original theme.

Due to be released over the weekend and games are in the room.

Something different here though as the cabinets on the lhs are different to the ones on the rhs in shape.... maybe the introduction of a standup arcade type pinball or a pinball 2000 style game ????
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Post by: robm on October 14, 2016, 08:06:25 AM
Wayne has announced an aussie launch on 4th Dec in Melbourne with Jersey Jack coming with 2 new titles. Fortunately i will be in Melbourne for work so will be checking it out.

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Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on October 14, 2016, 08:40:02 AM
Banzi run II
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Post by: Strangeways on October 14, 2016, 09:46:53 AM
The "upright" style could be "Pinball Circus" which James Loflin had to get ready for Chicago. If there is enough interest, this design will move ahead for production.
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Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on October 14, 2016, 02:51:38 PM
A cell phone themed game

Dial-me-out
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Post by: swinks on October 14, 2016, 03:06:30 PM
I thing the "Dial In" is the mobile phone software that links to the game, apparently the theme is "Deep Dive" ???
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Post by: robm on October 14, 2016, 03:21:21 PM
Nah, game is called Dialed In. Looks interesting, credit for trying a non licensed theme.  Bit hard to judge gameplay at the moment.

Monitor that moves out on hinges to access boards in the backbox is a great idea, particularly for troubleshooting.

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Post by: swinks on October 14, 2016, 03:40:39 PM
sorry, at work and can't access many other sites, look forward to seeing what it is about.
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Post by: Cow Corner on October 14, 2016, 04:10:13 PM
This is worse than the Batman 66 reveal.
 @.@
Alien is the clear winner for me from the 3 reveals, the other 2 are just meh!
 ^^^
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Post by: swinks on October 14, 2016, 05:13:42 PM
wow, just saw photos and not really sure what I am looking at, looks full but confused by the theme.... maybe you have to see a video or play it to get it.
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Post by: Cow Corner on October 14, 2016, 05:18:07 PM
The video makes it even worse for mine...the audio on this game is not good.....arrrgh.... make it stop!!!
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Post by: Strangeways on October 14, 2016, 05:19:37 PM
I can't find the right words. Reminds me of Stern's "High Roller Casino". One butt ugly machine.
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: swinks on October 14, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
what is going on with the prices, the bubble must be getting close and awesome to have 7000 LE's lol



Dialed In Limited Edition, 7,000 units, $9000

Dialed In Collector's Edition, built to order, $12,500
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: swinks on October 14, 2016, 05:39:10 PM
video

https://www.periscope.tv/jackjjp/1ypKdAVngdYGW?#

takes selfie's at 42 minutes
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: Cow Corner on October 14, 2016, 05:44:46 PM
They must be hitting the pipe really hard at JJP.
 ()
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: Cow Corner on October 14, 2016, 05:48:28 PM
LE-14K Aud
Collectors Edition( LOL)-$18500 Aud.

Yeah...good luck with that!

 ::)
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Post by: solar value on October 14, 2016, 09:21:59 PM
Looks great to me, gameplay:

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Post by: oldskool1969 on October 14, 2016, 10:23:35 PM
Totally intrigued and want to see more, play more and know more.
The power to surprise is gifted to a jaded few. Looks AWESOME
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: Strangeways on October 14, 2016, 10:43:31 PM
Just spent an hour playing pinball with my kids. Not a hand held device, beeping phone, snapchat, email.. nothing. Just pinball. Went to comp last weekend. So many heads buried in phones and devices. Now we have a pinball that basically reflects today's obsession with technology and communication. Whatever happened to locking the door behind you and playing pinball ? The theme absolutely SUCKS.

Non licensed themes of yesteryear - Medieval Madness, Junkyard, No Good Gophers, Theater of Magic. Is this the best they can come up with ? A pinball about a friggen hand held device  !*!

I'll bet it SMSs you when your high score is beaten  :tumble:

"Dialed In"  %.% %.%
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: robm on October 15, 2016, 08:13:56 AM
Had a bit more look at some photos, and having a think about unlicensed themes in general. I think for most people, pinball is a bit of an escape or reliving earlier times, so can appreciate the fact that a focus on a phone is not ideal - personally, i reckon if they changed the title to Quantum City (as others have suggested, since that is the city the whole theme is based around), it would be a lot better. However, thinking about other themes - they are almost all very polarising, and the theme in general does not appeal to everyone. EG:

Fishtales - polarising, many people hate fishing
Whitewater - whitewater rafting, cool idea, but most people aren't into it
Theatre of Magic/Pinball Magic - most people prob think magic is lame
CV - circus...lame to many people
Roller Coaster - cool idea, maybe childish to some or many
Generic car themes - appealing to many, although there have been a few games based on these
Roadshow - theme based on roadworks - pathetic idea

However - most of the games listed above are accepted by many players and collectors as good to very good games.

Interestingly (looking at threads on pinside quickly) most people who have actually played it say it seems to play very well (even at coding only 20% complete), is less stop start than other games such as TZ and is just plain fun.  I reckon that's what many of us have wanted - a pin with newer technology, but with a focus on a 'fun' theme like many WPC games.

Personally, i am looking forward to giving it a god bash down the track, and really will reserve judgement on game play until then, but i reckon its got some good potential....even more if they changed the name!
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: Cow Corner on October 15, 2016, 08:32:11 AM
I can't stand mobile phones. I see enough of them in everyday life with every 2nd person glued to one, the last thing I want to see let alone own is a pinball machine with a phone.
Lame!
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: Strangeways on October 15, 2016, 11:18:46 AM
Had a bit more look at some photos, and having a think about unlicensed themes in general. I think for most people, pinball is a bit of an escape or reliving earlier times, so can appreciate the fact that a focus on a phone is not ideal - personally, i reckon if they changed the title to Quantum City (as others have suggested, since that is the city the whole theme is based around), it would be a lot better. However, thinking about other themes - they are almost all very polarising, and the theme in general does not appeal to everyone. EG:

Fishtales - polarising, many people hate fishing
Whitewater - whitewater rafting, cool idea, but most people aren't into it
Theatre of Magic/Pinball Magic - most people prob think magic is lame
CV - circus...lame to many people
Roller Coaster - cool idea, maybe childish to some or many
Generic car themes - appealing to many, although there have been a few games based on these
Roadshow - theme based on roadworks - pathetic idea

However - most of the games listed above are accepted by many players and collectors as good to very good games.

Interestingly (looking at threads on pinside quickly) most people who have actually played it say it seems to play very well (even at coding only 20% complete), is less stop start than other games such as TZ and is just plain fun.  I reckon that's what many of us have wanted - a pin with newer technology, but with a focus on a 'fun' theme like many WPC games.

Personally, i am looking forward to giving it a god bash down the track, and really will reserve judgement on game play until then, but i reckon its got some good potential....even more if they changed the name!


The main difference is, that when these machines were designed and themes picked, the manufacturers completed the game. No input from anyone except the in-house designers. They were also designed to go onsite and earn money. No one really cared back then - you don't like a game or theme, just wait a couple of months, and there will be something you will like !

I thought an original game would be challenging pinheads to put their stupid devices in their pockets, and play a pinball that demands their attention with the theme and gameplay. Having said that, I'd play the game for sure, but never consider buying it at half the asking price.
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: swinks on October 15, 2016, 04:40:58 PM
just an odd theme, so many options, I get that JJP are pushing the bar with technology but this is just a bit too far

but for those curious, here is the playfield

Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: oldskool1969 on October 15, 2016, 07:37:49 PM
I like EVERYTHING about this game so far.
Really want to play this as I think it is going the right direction to stop pinball dying and being only for the oldies.
Curious on $$ though. May have to trade a few in?
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: Cursed on October 15, 2016, 09:40:49 PM
I think the game is aimed at a different generation and I am also interested to see more.

Is anyone happy about the price? I think not.....but it is what it is. Epic theme or not the price would be the same.

Think we need to see more before we throw it to the wolves though.

And Cow Corner I think we got it, you don't like it..... ::)
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: pinnies4me on October 16, 2016, 08:15:57 AM
Must say I really am perplexed at this choice of theme. It just seems there are so many other things in this world that could be be the next great original theme....just thinking that mobile phones might not be that. Watching that video I was thinking that I wished that person would answer their bloody phone and then realised it was the game!

I am holding out for a more classic theme, like Australia Post - you know, pay more, get less, wait longer, none of this new fangled mobile crap....
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Post by: Cow Corner on October 16, 2016, 08:37:18 AM

And Cow Corner I think we got it, you don't like it..... ::)

And Cursed.......... Get Stuffed.
 :lol
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: Cow Corner on October 16, 2016, 06:19:03 PM
I think the game is aimed at a different generation and I am also interested to see more.

Is anyone happy about the price? I think not.....but it is what it is. Epic theme or not the price would be the same.

Think we need to see more before we throw it to the wolves though.

And Cow Corner I think we got it, you don't like it..... ::)

You are a sandwich short of a picnic, so give yourself a uppercut for good measure!

 @@*
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on October 17, 2016, 07:20:05 PM
Wow, I see the Australian distributor is putting on a show to display this game
only $25 per person
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: KBRI1700 on October 17, 2016, 09:03:41 PM
Wow, I see the Australian distributor is putting on a show to display this game
only $25 per person

You show the game to drum up sales; however you also charge people to view the game.


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Post by: Retropin on October 17, 2016, 09:10:37 PM
Wow, I see the Australian distributor is putting on a show to display this game
only $25 per person

You show the game to drum up sales; however you also charge people to view the game.




Bet Mike wishes he had thought of that..LOL
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: RottyGuy on October 17, 2016, 09:16:43 PM
Wow, I see the Australian distributor is putting on a show to display this game
only $25 per person

Good luck to him. If pinheads continue to buy NIB games at the current prices, I'd have a cover charge to come and view it too. Milk buyers for everything while it's hot.

Seriously the dumbest theme for a very long time. So many opportunities for a great unlicensed theme and this is what they come up with.
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: Strangeways on October 17, 2016, 09:52:07 PM
$14,000 for a Standard and $18,000 for an LE. $25 to view the game. Only in Amer...  @@^

I tip my hat off to the Pinheads that can afford these games. Especially having to pay to even look at the machine before buying. I look forward to a review  (((

NEW Pinball is ALIVE AND WELL (if you have deep pockets).  !^!
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Post by: Retropin on October 17, 2016, 09:56:50 PM
Mmmm.. a pinball based around a mobile phone. I can see why JJP did this.. mobile phones are by far the most popular gadget there is.
But in typical " not in touch with the population" style, they call it "Dialed in".

Only an old fart would call it this.. we haven't had dial phones for about 30 years. LOL - im surprised there isn't a coiled wire in there somewhere   %.% %.% %.% %.%
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Post by: DSB on October 18, 2016, 09:22:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtWvr2Oxvnk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtWvr2Oxvnk)

 $!&
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Post by: Retropin on October 18, 2016, 09:44:38 PM
I cant even get my phone to download to my computer..
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Post by: 4_amusement_only on October 18, 2016, 09:50:58 PM
$25 also includes a signed flyer by Jack - also he will personally be there at the Sandbelt venue. Day includes pinball seminars and some light food and drink. Not too bad then 
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Post by: GORGAR 1 on October 19, 2016, 05:23:32 AM
Odd title that's for sure but the game plays real nice and being a standard cabinet it's fast.  I probably put 20 or more games on it at expo and really liked it but man it's expensive. At the seminar Jack and Pat where super excited and where confident of big sales but I think price point might hurt them. But there's plenty of people with a lot of money so if they can build them fast who knows.
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Post by: robm on December 06, 2016, 08:12:13 AM
I was able to get to the JJP3 launch party as i was down in Melbourne for work.  The day was fantastic and a credit to the organisers.  There were around 17 machines to play, including 2 x Hobbit and Dialed In.  Jersey Jack had a few presentations and it was great to meet a bunch of other pinheads.  Special mention to member here Cursed who helped out by picking me up a couple of times to help get around Melbourne.  There were also some other info sessions such as Tim from Hot Rodded Pins, some of the local Melbourne pinball clubs for competitions and a trivia session which was fun.

The Dialed In is certainly a very nice package, and gameplay is fun and quite flowing. Many people who played commented that it plays like a Bally/Williams WPC but with more flashy things.  The code is still only at 20%, so you could start modes and play them, as well as lock balls and get multiball (quite challenging).  The magnet on the lower right really seemed to work really well.  Most interestingly for me, was that a lot of people on pinside who have commented about the game without playing it, seem to get carried away about the fact of the phone being the central point of the game - the theme of the game is NOT based around a phone (depsite the name, i still think it should be called Quantum City), it is based around a series of disaster in the city that you need to sort out - the phone is simply the communication device - the screen of the phone is great for a quick look at what you need to do.  Upper flipper shots were quite hard, which I like. 

Jack also mentioned, the ability to link with a mobile device to flip the flippers, was really just to show what technology was available, as well as lure in some young kids. Again, this is not the central point of the game, but something that could be used for those who wish to.  He did also mention that use could (ie: not would, but it COULD be possible) to use a phone to play if you were playing with a teammate (or young kid) to help them, or conversely, if you were playing in a home environment, the opponent might be able to try and hinder the player.  Certainly this is not for everyone, however for me in a home environment, i reckon it would be great fun.  For example, maybe if you get the super jackpot (these are my thoughts, not hat Jack said), you get a 'credit' on your phone app, which means you can control the flippers of your opponent for 2 seconds or something like that. I don't think this would be any good for competitions, or random people on site, but would mix things up a bit in a home environment!  Also, i like the idea of being able to help out young kids to play while teaching them some of the rules, or what to shoot for.  Often they hate it when you press the flipper buttons, but if this can be done remotely, they will get a thrill out of playing a bit more of the game while learning.

The cabinet, playfield and screen were all top quality.  I would have like to have a look under the cab and in the head, but people were playing the machine all day.  As an added bonus, a mate of mine who was also down from Townsville won a Judge Dredd pinball on the day (after we entered a local comp on Friday night) - sorry to the Melbourne regulars!

Also, an added bonus for me was being able to catch up with Nino and have a look at Australian Pinball Restorations.  Thank you VERY much Nino for your hospitality, great to finally talk in person and see your top quality work, and amazing workshop.  Was cool having a couple of games on the EMs with you as well.
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Post by: oldskool1969 on December 06, 2016, 09:55:44 AM
 @@*
thanks for the write up. I would like this machine as it is right up my alley. Original theme, quirky and designed by Pat.
Hopefully pics will follow from someone?
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Post by: Strangeways on December 06, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
Glad to read a positive review of the game - I agree - the name of the game is just stupid - "Quantum City" soiunds a lot better, and the theme sounds a lot like Roadshow - which is a CRACKER of a game and theme.

Also, it was a pleasure to finally meet Rob. I met him walking from the Train Station to my factory. You could not miss him, as he had a ramp sticking out of his backpack. I'm still laughing  %.%

You are welcome any time mate  *%*
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Post by: Cow Corner on December 06, 2016, 12:27:11 PM
I'm finding it hard to get past the phone thing but my kids ( 9 and 12) saw video of this game and went NUTS!
This game could be a big hit with the next generation of pinball players.
 !@#
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Post by: Cursed on December 06, 2016, 07:06:32 PM
It was great to catch up Rob! Happy to help where I can.

Was a great day, I can't comment on Dialed In though as each time I played it I drained almost instantly! All me though.

Tim Reid seminar was the highlight for me, was a great insight to what he does and how he does it. Both of his machines on display looked absolutely incredible.
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Post by: pinball god on December 06, 2016, 07:18:33 PM
Thanks for the great write up and its good to hear that its not all about mobile phones and dependant upon an app or the like. I'm not keen on the intervention of a player's game but do liken it to my t-box on my downstairs tv where I have an app on the ipad. I can drive my wife crazy changing channels on her and stuffing with the volume from upstairs and she doesn't put two and two togethers that its me and not the box going stupid.

It gives me pleasure  && and a little smile when she talks to her friends about how we males can be stupid at times.   $.$
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Post by: pinnies4me on December 06, 2016, 07:47:53 PM
Great write up game sounds fascinating!
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Post by: solar value on December 06, 2016, 09:51:32 PM
I also played Dialed In! last Sunday. I thought it was excellent.

The thing that struck me right away is that the colour scheme is very vibrant, it's mostly primary colours, and this makes it look very fun and inviting from across the room. It has a comic book feel to it, which is reinforced by the title font and other details such as the bonus screen being a black and white sketch of the city.

When you get up close you start to see the enormous amount of detail which has been put into the game. The playfield is packed with high quality moulded toys. The energy company mascot who blocked your shots was really cool and was nicely lit. The Einstein theatre which used the pepper's ghost effect was very clear. Some of the toys had cool little details such as the drones which had spinning propellers and flashing lights. The playfield is very well lit. There are lights and flashers everywhere including chaser lights on the ramps and the whole game sparkles with really cool light shows. The plastics have a lot of nice details on them which are reminiscent of Lawlor's other games such as Whirlwind and Funhouse.

The game shot really nicely, the ramp shots were really smooth. The magnet over near the drones gave the ball some random action. It was pretty easy to work out what to do. The LCD and phone toy kept you informed of what you needed to shoot.

One interesting thing which I noticed was that all the playfield elements also appear in the cityscape on the LCD. The pop bumpers are the tops of three buildings, the Einstein theater is on one of the streets and the electricity mascot is part of a sign on another building, it's really clever.

The whole game just looks next level, more modern and polished than any other game I have seen. The things that people have been complaining about on Pinside (the name, the guy with the phone and the phone toy itself) are not a huge part of the game and it all works really well together when you actually see and play it in person.
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Post by: oldskool1969 on December 06, 2016, 10:37:10 PM
Stop it, I am getting a chubby  && Hopefully one makes it to WA for me to have a whirl. Love love love original themes.
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: 4_amusement_only on December 08, 2016, 03:19:15 AM
Played the game about 10 times today. The most remarkable aspect to me was the smoothness of the ball action. Compared to say Hobbit, the ball stayed very planted and the ramp shots are very smooth. Jam packed full of shots and toys. Nice references to games of previous PL years throughout. Plays like a restored mid 90's BW with a bit more finesse. The game code is very basic and I am sure it will be full of stuff to do once complete.

The original theme is very questionable for all the possibilities. The mobile phone plays a bigger part in my opinion to those reviews previous. The PF phone is regularly ringing, the text and phone graphics resemble that of an iPhone, there are mobile phone references on both sides of the cab including headbox and interaction with characters is completed using the phone. Sticker on glass to enable phone control. Phone phone phone. Can't get away from it. It's a major part of the game and its using that device to appeal to a different generation of player. If anybody knows anything about Pat, that is he will always have it in this roots that the Pinball Machine is a device designed for the operator to make money. Even though the home market is big, the greater public appeal is what interests him more and he has created a game that tries to cater for this. The camera taking photos of my head while playing is gimmicky and gets old quick. The title almost blurs the lines between reality and fantasy and for that the machine suffers IMO.

Underneath the PF is well built and given the machine I played was the number 1 prototype, I was surprised to see all the components assembled with minimal errors. Fit and finish of cab was a bit off 100% for JP standard but that will improve for production machines. Cab legs are unique to this game at 30 inches. Provided the front and rear casters are fully wound in, the machine is sitting at its optimal slope of 6 degrees.

Personally the theme does absolutely nothing for me. If one was not so fussed then there is a top unique machine out there for them. 38 sold so far including 6 or so being the collectors edition. Good amount of Dialed In pins going to Aussie homes.
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Post by: Cursed on December 08, 2016, 06:11:05 PM
Great review Chris, agree completely.

Great to hear so many are coming here.
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: 4_amusement_only on December 08, 2016, 10:02:39 PM
Thanks Mic. Come around soon and play some pins mate
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Post by: Cursed on December 09, 2016, 05:59:59 PM
Thanks Mic. Come around soon and play some pins mate

Cheers mate, sounds good!

Likewise, considering you missed out on coming over for my meet earlier this year. Got a nice Roadshow you can play/compare?  ^^^
Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: solar value on February 25, 2017, 12:23:49 AM
Have a look at this everyone, we're in a new era at last...


(More videos at this link (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoCpW4GORktW_ngLS5H_79Q))


Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: solar value on May 27, 2017, 10:32:04 PM
This is in production now. Official trailer:




Title: Re: JJP's 3rd machine is "Dialed In"
Post by: pinball god on June 10, 2017, 06:35:56 PM

about time to get a true pinball promo like from the past. The stern making of's are great generally but sometimes you just want to see a snippet of the game but not in 30 seconds.


Still don't like the theme but gameplay I've seen seems good