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Title: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 03, 2017, 04:24:24 PM
Finally managed to make some space in the shed so I dragged this treasure out of storage.   Won't be a priority but got to have it home so I can tinker as I get time. 

    Havnt been able to find a whole lot of Info on it but luckily found a guy in the Us with one who has been helping me with photos of missing parts etc.   
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170503/7a0df4a7d3c5984c75a08aa607427b4b.jpg)
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   It's definately going to be a lot of work the poor thinks been used and abused for way to many years but I think it will be well worth the effort wouldn't be to many floating around specially here


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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: KBRI1700 on May 04, 2017, 02:57:13 PM
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 04, 2017, 06:31:17 PM
Thanks for putting up the video I can never get them to work so I never bothered hahaha.   This guy has been a huge help with measurements and photos of the missing parts


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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: Strangeways on May 04, 2017, 06:39:50 PM
Awesome mate - another interesting project saved.
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: swinks on May 04, 2017, 06:40:17 PM
cool machine, look forward to the finished restored game
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: Slash on May 04, 2017, 07:06:58 PM
Watching that video it looks really cool.
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 05, 2017, 01:37:33 PM
Got a couple of hours tinkering with the old girl Looms a mess and without a schematic it's all guesswork slowly slowly.

 (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170505/94ca74a5c81d9265d803be3a5b2d35c2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170505/547cc72f108179e9d6bcc3c69c9a16eb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170505/46b9c46f87e8a58991ea4da3d6996772.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170505/f660d10d5ac0d30c638d5de0339cf118.jpg)

Also made up the missing section to hold the machine gun
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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: KBRI1700 on May 05, 2017, 03:35:49 PM
http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/copsrob.htm

http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/deserth.htm

Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: Strangeways on May 06, 2017, 11:45:01 AM
You also need a bigger shed..
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 08, 2017, 10:49:41 AM
Sorting out a few of the wiring issues.   In order to work some out the gun needed to be disassembled and new wires ran. Some peanut cut them dead level with the pipe.

  So while I had it apart for new wires I decided I'd strip it down and give it some new paint. 
   Still need to strip and varnish the timber gun handles but the aims to get it going so these are not important.
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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 08, 2017, 10:50:07 AM
And yes nino I do need a bigger shed but sadly that's not happening


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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 08, 2017, 12:56:24 PM



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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 10, 2017, 11:09:52 PM
Some progress today target sections all wired up, also got the gun stand wiring repairs upto being able to coin up a game.   

   Now it's bolted back together I need to wire up the contact plate and make a new contact arm.    All stepper need to be rebuilt it I'll do that when I strip the game for a respray.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170510/a54f37b3dfaa1f547b711079f1829075.jpg)

Here's the funny backgrounds that you can see through the windows good to see spousal abuse was still around in 1957 lol
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Title: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 11, 2017, 01:29:05 PM
Well trial number one of my contact arm seems to work pretty well,   Keep in mind all steppers and relays are yet to be cleaned so it's sluggish but ever time the red lights on mean it's been hit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvWxq-PI-KU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvWxq-PI-KU)


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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: oldskool1969 on May 11, 2017, 01:59:52 PM
mmmmm boobie silhouettes
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: Steevsee on May 11, 2017, 02:03:37 PM
Very impressive work in saving a neat piece of arcade history.
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 11, 2017, 04:32:57 PM
Probably would have been pushing the boundaries back in the 50s


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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: KBRI1700 on May 11, 2017, 05:58:40 PM
Nice CFTBL playfield next to it
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: Steevsee on May 11, 2017, 06:08:08 PM
Nice CFTBL playfield next to it

And no silhouette in sight! #@#
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: Retropin on May 11, 2017, 08:33:55 PM
You already know how much I hate you Daniel.. you are just making it worse mate
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 12, 2017, 03:05:51 AM
You already know how much I hate you Daniel.. you are just making it worse mate
Yeah well you have great hair so I call it even


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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: Retropin on May 12, 2017, 08:14:11 AM
Yes... yes I do..

Fair call
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 12, 2017, 10:24:14 AM
Hahahah


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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on May 20, 2017, 11:51:47 AM
Sadly no progress on the game but this arrived in the mail yesterday.
  An original advertising poster so much money for a piece of paper but I could t let it get away
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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on December 21, 2017, 08:36:14 PM
I had a little me time the last couple of days and started tackling the cabinet on the crooks saloon it’s all stripped repaired and in its first coat of primer was pretty happy to discover the original artwork under the 50 layers of paint (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171221/6137ae1c1ae9610b2a8825c4fb07bd00.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171221/656ead305de4dea49de2a51de1dc2e3c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171221/8f889c14cc0330bf9d78f91c5c37e766.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171221/b3097cc24b0b7569eace36480fedd736.jpg)


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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on February 16, 2018, 11:43:13 PM
Small update I got the gun stand painted and assembled just waiting on the new nickel plating to come back then I’ll start on the target section (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180216/83b88b633601b28e6b8ffaf317a6f3e9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180216/646fc5b681598464d983fb42170f4579.jpg)


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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on March 09, 2018, 10:14:03 PM
Decided I couldn’t wait any longer with the warmer weather slowly leaving use decided to change my plan of attack and paint the target section.   Original plan was to strip it to a bare cabinet paint it then re assemble as i restore all the mechs and assemblies but figured paint the cabinet while the weathers nice I can restore assemblies anytime of year and I’m glad i did absolutely perfect weather for my all natural spray booth the heaters and ventilation system ran faultlessly hahaha (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/96e4393543e766eafcbb917598a7074e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/434ed1d331fc20389a9dd74d39e21f4f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/1d4c7144436c471de6220916e0284329.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/099a2054acb065931bdd5388c7a2476f.jpg)
Tomorrow I’ll attempt to completely stuff up all of today’s work with the white speckling.   

    Biggest challenge with this one is it won’t stand up on it’s own being so tall and thin.
    I prepped the back of the cabinet then later it flat on the Pinball trolley to access everything that’s seen.   Plan is to stand it up tomorrow and hope my very awkward upside down spraying of the edges is good enough to just remove the rear acces door and spray that but won’t find out till tomorrow. 
  That all depends of o can even move after a full day crouching and bending over sanding in the sun hahahah


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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: Strangeways on March 10, 2018, 04:25:28 PM
Decided I couldn’t wait any longer with the warmer weather slowly leaving use decided to change my plan of attack and paint the target section.   Original plan was to strip it to a bare cabinet paint it then re assemble as i restore all the mechs and assemblies but figured paint the cabinet while the weathers nice I can restore assemblies anytime of year and I’m glad i did absolutely perfect weather for my all natural spray booth the heaters and ventilation system ran faultlessly hahaha (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/96e4393543e766eafcbb917598a7074e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/434ed1d331fc20389a9dd74d39e21f4f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/1d4c7144436c471de6220916e0284329.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/099a2054acb065931bdd5388c7a2476f.jpg)
Tomorrow I’ll attempt to completely stuff up all of today’s work with the white speckling.   

    Biggest challenge with this one is it won’t stand up on it’s own being so tall and thin.
    I prepped the back of the cabinet then later it flat on the Pinball trolley to access everything that’s seen.   Plan is to stand it up tomorrow and hope my very awkward upside down spraying of the edges is good enough to just remove the rear acces door and spray that but won’t find out till tomorrow. 
  That all depends of o can even move after a full day crouching and bending over sanding in the sun hahahah


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Same here. For the first time this summer, but only after summer has finished, it has been perfect for painting cabinets. This last week has been perfect.
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on March 10, 2018, 05:24:38 PM
Well I didn’t stuff up the splatter so I’m pretty happy.  Ive done all I can do externally now until the nickel and stencils come back.

  I’ll replace the black tube with the good freshly painted one tonight when my son finishes me work.
   Also think I’ll try my local alloy place to see if they have a similar edge trim mine are twisted and bashed to death.
 
 It’s such a big game when assembled lol

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Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: pinball god on March 12, 2018, 10:46:11 AM
So what is it with this speckle thing. Old Pinnies have it, this has it, was there a purpose in speckling the paint or only just for looks
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: Strangeways on March 12, 2018, 12:23:40 PM
So what is it with this speckle thing. Old Pinnies have it, this has it, was there a purpose in speckling the paint or only just for looks

My old man told me that this was to distract the problems of overspray, underspray, stencils lining up and imperfections in the timber.
Title: Re: 1957 Dale Engineering The burp gun / cop and robbers / crooks saloon
Post by: ddstoys on March 13, 2018, 01:40:43 AM
Exactly what Nino said to distract you from imperfections these game had no primer under the original red paint very little effort went into paint prep


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