I dont mind admitting, that I thoroughly enjoy POPEYE widebody by Williams. Also, I reckon most SEGAS play ALOT better than the cookie cutter collection of the late Bally/Williams machines. I say keep an open mind to all pinball machines/manufacturers. You only have to play one game on say Starship Troopers. Viper Night Drivin, Batman Forever, Frankenstein, to name a few, to realise that these Segas, are just as good, if not better, than alot of much higher priced Bally?Williams etc.