why would you want one?
why would you even consider one?

maybe you should stop smoking that crap  at night Brett..... it will do your head in  .... and give you strange ideas

thanks for that Greg. I dont smoke at all, incl pot.never have,never will. and i very rarely drink alcohol.

the enquiry was for my brother about the ironman classic. he was interested in a budget style new STERN and would be perfect for his budget. he was considering selling his 2 x 1990's dmd machines to buy an ironman. the classic is the only new ironman available, so if u want a new one, u have to go that way. has anyone on here played a ironman classic ? pretty hard to judge a machine u have never played. hence the interest and questions about the classic. Daz (cowcorner) loves his ironman so much, i thought that title might be a good idea for a family member who only has room for 1 x more pin.