Thanks for your reply ! It is not exactly a tribute to the boxer Joe , but i do think he was a great fighter . I like the ring of his nickname after a couple of people at work started calling me Smokingjoe . I am not young any more but i spar actual competative fighters at a boxing gym i go to . They obviously pull their punches somewhat otherwise it would be a bit overwhelming for me . I am actually friends with someone who in his prime use to be Joe Frazer's , George Foreman's and Muhammad Ali's sparing partner during their careers . He also managed or trained 7 world champions . Interesting some of his answers to my questions