I think there is a bit of history with a few people on Pinside and without trying to play a particular side we need to remove the emotion and stick to facts.

- JJP yes hasn't been producing and delivering as promised and I feel for the long time investors like Pete  
- The boot times are quicker than estimated or believed - that is excellent for the owners  
- please keep this thread on WOZ and other threads fun, polite, factual and informative   and not stoop down to poor forum behaviour

- some of our US member like Sunfox has been a member here for a while and shares great info, Pinchroma is well known in the US for great pinball products and great for the hobby and probably found us through positive posts placed elsewhere
- some of aussie members like Homepin are excellent for the pinball community with the products they provide
- our forum mods strangeways and pinnies4me are excellent mods and create and maintain a excellent site for all of us to visit and share info
- some members are a rightly upset with delivery promises and are airing which is fine but ask that we all try and be nice to each other