Thanks Gav & Mike what a great insight into the amusement industry from many years ago oh Gav your a year older than me so your old lol. So not alot has changed we still don't have many "real techs" who know what there doing but in those days pinball was actually making money and alot of money apposed to today where $50 a week is good lol. So Really why would a TZ spend man hours on a machine that barly pays for itself? Pinball in the wild is dead we all know that so me I'm not surprised that the game comes in makes a few thousand then it's moved on for the next new title.

Peter.