Not true Gorgar1. Sorry if I upset you. I think Stern is overpriced & not as well made as the (admittedly older) Bally/ Williams games - but I'm the 1st to say each to his own. This thread was, as I understand it, moved from another for those that didn't mind a joke - especially the Hitler videos. I find them very creative & highly amusing. I am not pinsanity & find it a little offensive it's been suggested - happy for mods to phone me to clarify that once & for all. You don't need to read it if it's not your thing.