Thats it,and if some people post it ,others can learn from whats happening.Heaps of pic's ect.I hope this will help some one else having a go at it. The chick with the Quick draw EM problems inspired me to post my (help to get it going)post. She is still going at it,seems to have lots more stuff going on than this Abra ca dabra ,hope she gets it sorted.Some times it good to leave it a few days then attack it again .Long live the great EM'S