Yeah they are – but KTM450 and I will take any opportunity to promote WH20 
I have spent a bit of time on white water and dont really rate it but that is my opinion
But arn't they fetching over $3000 these days ?
Yeah, they are now, people have worked out what a great game it is, mega ramps and a very challenging ruleset.
They used to be around the $2-$2.5k mark a few years back, but I guess with all replacement ramps available and repro PFs they are in high demand.
