My point wasnt that new in box pins arent worth it, they are.
Theres nothing like a brand new car, pin or any new toy. Brand new is the best ofcourse.

My point was IF someone was trying to pass off a real good restore as a NIB,and the figures for those NIB WMS pins was almost double what u can buy a NIB pin from STERN. Just a comparison,the point being that if u forked out $13,000 for a NIB pin, and then found later it wasnt really a NIB, u would be unhappy.

I say hell yes to a NIB Stern Shrek or Batman or LE LOTR. Monies not a problem at my end, more the fact i have another half dozen well priced, slightly used machines i would like to pick up b4 i look at a NIB. In fact i plan on buying a NIB Shrek for my 8 yr old daughter when STERN does another run.

But NIB is fine.I agree with ya there for sure.