very interesting thread and posts
well i guess this is my 2 cents
from a dealer who has brought over 200 60 /70 and somes 80s pins in this county in the last 18 months and well over 300 dmds
I see these at the right price worth looking at , the problem is you need to take gamble and hope you can mix and match them and find a couple off
good top end ones like Kiss playboy Rocky and rolling stones all these you will get top dollar for but have to hold them till the right customer comes along.
as for 500 ones yes I sold 55 like this in over a week , no legs no glass no lock bars no leg bolts . they looked complete and i am sure a few here got some
as for later ones like 70 and 80s these also sold from 500 but NONE had boards or legs ect ect for 500. i would think complete ones unchecked would have to be double that for the better titles bar say kiss playboy RS and rocky these all would way more. and yes i did let a few go to auction and sell for less
give you a example of a royal flush Andrew did one of my techs with over 25 years of rebuilding pins and learning on these.
the brought one off me as is spent over $500 on parts made a stencil for it re painted it looked a million dollars so its owed him around $1200.00 ish but wait how many hours did it take him and what price to you put on your time from a dealer I have been charging $55.00 per hour in store.,
well it took him just on 50 hours to do all the work and have it looking like new . A dealer just cant spend that much on one of these and then sell it for a profit. these are way better for the home handyman or we could just cut corners and not do all the work , as others have done. this is also something i WONT do , i would and will rather sell them off as is.
Nino how many hours did you spend on my RS ?? or my rocky ?? or Creechs Sinbad ? or Gregs Jet Star ?? now how many dmd can you do in the same time ?
so the quess the question is am I bringing more in well the answer will be YES once i locate another good batch that also contains some top end ones and at a good price i will buy them. they again will be mostly sold off the same as the last ones.
as it happens I am looking at some
It is refreshing to hear honesty at this level, and encouraging that the machines are finding homes at prices the market accepts.
How many hours did I spend on the machines ? It depends on how much time you allocate as WORK, and how much time your spend because you lose yourself in the passion of the restore. Too hard to tell. As an indicative figure, Rolling Stones was around 65 hours, Rocky was around 55 hours, Sinbad was around 70 hours, Strikes and Spares was 55 hours, Flash 50 hours... Star Jet could be anything ! - Jacks Open was 100+ hours... But they are seriously "ball park" - like "turning off the meter" and just ENJOYING the task.
Reconditioning (my standards) a DMD is around 30 - 35 hours, but an acceptable standard would be 25 hours. There's also a learning curve for me as I'm not an "expert" by any means on a DMD - But a Pinball is a Pinball..
I'm keen on "stockpiling" projects, as I want a spread of machines over time...So the more that come in, the happier I am..