can this thread be removed so we can go back to pinball? 
Probably a good idea, but it does serve as a warning to others about the OP.
Ive been involved in opposing car forums battling it out against each other and mud flinging, that went to extremes,these thread help excite people rather than do good. since then i have avoided forums. i think it would do every one good to see these topics gone before it chases away people who want to avoid forum politics, thats my opinion, even though it's retaliation fro ma shit stirer they got what they wanted if we keep this around for other shit stirers to drag the thread up and shit stir in the future.
if there is slinging matches every day or every week, then it is a problem
things do blow up here on occasion, but the it is usually over in a day or so
