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Re: Do people actually buy pins form Italy???
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2015, 02:41:35 PM »
In cases like these the golden rules of pinball transactions comes into effect -

If you have the means, inspect in person before you commit to buying. (Even better write the trip off as a work related tax deduction and get a nice holiday through the rest of Europe as a side jaunt at the same time.  #@#)

Don't focus on one or a set list of machines, hand pick the roses amongst the thorns and go from there.

The asking price is rarely if ever the actual end selling price.

People are always more conducive to negotiating a better deal face to face rather than back and forth emails.


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Re: Do people actually buy pins form Italy???
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2015, 03:05:05 PM »
Hey Gav, any Cactus Canyon's on the list  #@#

Yes!!! At a special Easter bargain price!!

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one decal of cabinet removed , to change , little wear on playfield , fuse f106 and diode d14 are skipped , no serious , for the rest a good rare original cactus , with manuals .

Bargain wholesale price of...............Euro6400.. that's a gnats tadger over AU$9000!

Snap it up quick before another bargain hunter beats you to it..

I saw that listing and passed on it as well. Most of the routed Euro CC's will need work done to them but that one was way too far gone for my liking and the amount of effort required to resurrect it (pardon the timely pun).

Besides which I don't need two.  ^^^










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Re: Do people actually buy pins form Italy???
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2015, 04:59:14 PM »
I had an Italian ELVIS and laughed my head off when the shot calls were Italian. Game sounds are normal.
Thankfully you can re burn ROMS.
Couldn't wait to get rid of this boat anchor, had to buy it to get my RBION as a package ( not from Italy though )
If it isn't broke, it isn't pinball.

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Re: Do people actually buy pins form Italy???
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2015, 08:37:36 PM »
If your building a collection as I am, enjoy playing them & don't really care if there in "absolute top condition", then in my eyes buying overseas is the go.
I don't mind a project as long as its fixable !

Why sieve through all the over priced turds here on the market (ebay/gumtree), when I can buy plenty of turds overseas for half the price of what they on evilbay are asking for here !
I enjoy fixing, cleaning, getting to know the machine and most important, I enjoy playing them more.... knowing that I rebuild it.

Some of you may have seen that I asked about containers here: http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=13466.0

I actually have some on the way, this is the first time I have bought a load like this, so it will be interesting to see what I get when it arrives compared to the pictures I bought them from.
If it all works out, ill definitely go back and get some more, if not I don't get burnt twice and a lesson well learnt ! lol.

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Re: Do people actually buy pins form Italy???
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2015, 09:01:02 PM »
If your building a collection as I am, enjoy playing them & don't really care if there in "absolute top condition", then in my eyes buying overseas is the go.
I don't mind a project as long as its fixable !

Why sieve through all the over priced turds here on the market (ebay/gumtree), when I can buy plenty of turds overseas for half the price of what they on evilbay are asking for here !
I enjoy fixing, cleaning, getting to know the machine and most important, I enjoy playing them more.... knowing that I rebuild it.

Some of you may have seen that I asked about containers here: http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=13466.0

I actually have some on the way, this is the first time I have bought a load like this, so it will be interesting to see what I get when it arrives compared to the pictures I bought them from.
If it all works out, ill definitely go back and get some more, if not I don't get burnt twice and a lesson well learnt ! lol.

Quite agree, but there is a top price to pay for any machine... the prices listed are supposed wholesale... confuse this with retail and you have yourself a collection that wont ever expand because you have been priced out of the market. The prices from Expand are and have nearly always been very high. These prices are based on a container load.. not individual. In fact the prices are crap and an attempt to fleece the unsuspecting.
Interestingly enough though, im finding USA prices are ABOVE market value here.. as more and more machines go into private collections to hardly ever be sold again, sourcing and affording is becoming harder.

But Euro400 for a Zac that doesn't work with a BG that you cant get and a display you cant get??... oh lordy!

Soon we will only be left with the Playmatics!

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Re: Do people actually buy pins form Italy???
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2015, 05:51:01 PM »
If your building a collection as I am, enjoy playing them & don't really care if there in "absolute top condition", then in my eyes buying overseas is the go.
I don't mind a project as long as its fixable !

Spot on mate, and good luck in taking the plunge.

If your primary motivation is adding to your collection and not for onselling to the general public (which will add yet another slice to the end price) then why not. It is the fastest and most practical way to acquire a handful of pins limited only by your discretionary income.

As for top prices, again one of the golden rule comes into play - a machine whether wholesale or retail is always worth what someone else is willing to pay. If it sells at that price there is a new benchmark, if it doesn't and their warehouse begins filling up with new stock, as Strangeways said the price will inevitably drop and become far more flexible than at first in order to shift the older inventory.

I know most of us would like to hope that the days of 1800AU IJ's and 5800AU CC's were still around or will return in the immediate future, but they are long gone and the inflated market like it or not, is what it is.

I can't see the bubble ending (and yes it is a bubble I will acknowledge that) in the immediate foreseeable future as new buyers continually entering the market are going to repeatedly turn to the machines which they have the strongest sentimental attachment to and for a majority that is B/W '90s machines. Being able to acquire the so called high end A list titles from that segment like the aforementioned is the icing on the cake for a lot of them.

Even with a remake or the threat of such, there will always be a portion of the market who will prefer an original and pay a premium to get one.