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Offline FirePower

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playfield overlays?
« on: July 21, 2010, 02:20:41 PM »
Anybody had any experince with playfields that have an overlay applied.

How do they stand up to wear, is it normal to clear coat them.

Any opinions, comments and experiences welcome.



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Re: playfield overlays?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 06:32:42 PM »

The "cons" of an overlay greatly outweigh the "pros" - unless you want to hang the playfield up on the wall !

Pro's

Better than a playfield with bare wood
Looks good

Con's

Plays much slower than a mylared playfield. I played a KISS with an overlay and I had to check to see if the back legs were elevated high enough. It played like an EM. Really disappointing. I played a Space Invaders with an overlay, and then mylar on top and it was unplayable.
Playfield inserts are cloudy and in most cases, lacking registration. You need very bright lamps as the light has to penetrate the inserts and the overlay
A lot of time and effort goes into preparation. Would equate to around the same time for a professional to touch up and clearcoat the original playfield
Will eventually wear out, and you are back where you belong - probably even worse as you had to sand away the remaining art to have a flat surface to apply the overlay.


I considered overlays for my KISS and Playboy machines - but having played games with overlays installed - I would keep well away from them if you wish to PLAY the game. As an "ornament" - they are good. I've opted for my playfields to either be restored and clearcoated - or - replace them with a repro from Classic Playfields or IPB (I have 6 playfields already). Most of my games will have repros as I intend on playing them !


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Re: playfield overlays?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 08:37:30 PM »

The "cons" of an overlay greatly outweigh the "pros" - unless you want to hang the playfield up on the wall !

Pro's

Better than a playfield with bare wood
Looks good

Con's

Plays much slower than a mylared playfield. I played a KISS with an overlay and I had to check to see if the back legs were elevated high enough. It played like an EM. Really disappointing. I played a Space Invaders with an overlay, and then mylar on top and it was unplayable.
Playfield inserts are cloudy and in most cases, lacking registration. You need very bright lamps as the light has to penetrate the inserts and the overlay
A lot of time and effort goes into preparation. Would equate to around the same time for a professional to touch up and clearcoat the original playfield
Will eventually wear out, and you are back where you belong - probably even worse as you had to sand away the remaining art to have a flat surface to apply the overlay.


I considered overlays for my KISS and Playboy machines - but having played games with overlays installed - I would keep well away from them if you wish to PLAY the game. As an "ornament" - they are good. I've opted for my playfields to either be restored and clearcoated - or - replace them with a repro from Classic Playfields or IPB (I have 6 playfields already). Most of my games will have repros as I intend on playing them !


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Very interesting Nino!

I had no idea of the cons!

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Re: playfield overlays?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 08:58:50 PM »
Personally wont use one as don't thinks they are worth doing unless you want to hang it on the wall.Have a couple that i have not used and would rather get the playfield touched up and clear coated.

Have seen somewhere, someone clear coated one and as he tighten up the post, it like put all cracks all threw the clear coat.

Find a new playfield or get yours touched up as have seen some great work done by a few people on playfields resto.

Waiting on getting my Rolling stones playfield returned after clear coating and should look sweet.
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Re: playfield overlays?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 01:32:54 PM »
Thanks for the opinions guys - sounds like something to stay away from.

This was what I was looking at, item 290455578616 on US ebay, a Gorgar overlaid play field

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290455578616&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp3907.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D290455578616%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

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Re: playfield overlays?
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 04:05:22 PM »
Must admit it does look good

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Re: playfield overlays?
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 06:19:22 PM »

Notice the amount of light required to "light" the inserts  ^&^

Then look at the "blinding" light that is not being filtered by the overlay (target area)

Looks great - as a wall hanging.
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