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Offline Ant68

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Decal wear around flipper buttons after how many games ?
« on: February 24, 2012, 08:45:21 AM »
Decal wear around flipper buttons after how many games ?
How many game would you say would cause the following to a Stern either screen print or the newer decal type.
1) Very slight wear, just noticing colour missing
2) Midway between colour loss and showing the base colour ?
3) No Colour at all , just base colour
4) Wood grain showing .

Don't know if this topic has been covered before .

Cheers  Tony

Offline indazone gav

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No wear at all if you put a bit of mylar there :) I have done this on all my pins (including Bally and Williams) that dont have the Stern Ball-sack type side rails. You do not notice it is there and protects against any wear.
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Yes most of us protect that area as soon as a pin goes through the front door . Just thinking for example a container pin with x amount of wear could equal say 2000 games 3000 game or 10000 games  !@# as a quick reference to determine how flogged out it is ?

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good idea, also the chrome on LE's seems to always be worn of on routed pins within a month of being sited :( Most Bally and Williams seem to hold up pretty well I'd say. Stern not so well. Ever seen a sited Sopranos without white dots? I would guess under 1000 games.

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To give u an example, I have a Japaneese delivered CONGO with no wear at all around the flippers, and the japaneese installed game counter with the original date on it shows 1800 games (set on 3 balls) from the original site Taito operator etc with a book inside the game showing servicing history etc to confirm all n sundry is legit with very low game count. (yes, the japs do really look after their sited stuff just like Home Use stuff which is why jap games are in such demand) So, I would imagine, a game with some wear showing would be as follows.

some wear -  8 thousand games.
mid wear - 14 to 20 thousand games
wood wear - 25 to 30 thousand games plus.

I judge a game by the condition of the mechanicals on a game. ie- pop bumpers n sling shot moving parts, flipper slap etc etc will always tell a games real usgae. Insert wear obviously tells a story, but cliffy wear areas arent really a great way either cause some ball pop up areas do attract wear easily like on a data east Last Action Hero where the ball always flys accross the gold ticket etc, and the 2 x square sink holes always get shot every game a million times.

Also, I have seen some games with no wear around the flippers at all, but they have been very very high usage. But yes, cabinet wear can tell a story, sometimes it doesnt matter cause the game can be still really looked after. Some people in Home use only games slap the living shit outta there games with their individual playing style, which I certainly dont.  When i see a person playing a brand new game who is a bad slapper, it makes me cringe. A pinball is like a nice lady, be gentle with finesse, they will last longer. lol  && && && %.% %.%
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Nah, remove the tilt and go hard *)*

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Man thats a shit load of games  :D :D
some wear -  8 thousand games.
mid wear - 14 to 20 thousand games
wood wear - 25 to 30 thousand games plus.





To give u an example, I have a Japaneese delivered CONGO with no wear at all around the flippers, and the japaneese installed game counter with the original date on it shows 1800 games (set on 3 balls) from the original site Taito operator etc with a book inside the game showing servicing history etc to confirm all n sundry is legit with very low game count. (yes, the japs do really look after their sited stuff just like Home Use stuff which is why jap games are in such demand) So, I would imagine, a game with some wear showing would be as follows.

some wear -  8 thousand games.
mid wear - 14 to 20 thousand games
wood wear - 25 to 30 thousand games plus.

I judge a game by the condition of the mechanicals on a game. ie- pop bumpers n sling shot moving parts, flipper slap etc etc will always tell a games real usgae. Insert wear obviously tells a story, but cliffy wear areas arent really a great way either cause some ball pop up areas do attract wear easily like on a data east Last Action Hero where the ball always flys accross the gold ticket etc, and the 2 x square sink holes always get shot every game a million times.

Also, I have seen some games with no wear around the flippers at all, but they have been very very high usage. But yes, cabinet wear can tell a story, sometimes it doesnt matter cause the game can be still really looked after. Some people in Home use only games slap the living shit outta there games with their individual playing style, which I certainly dont.  When i see a person playing a brand new game who is a bad slapper, it makes me cringe. A pinball is like a nice lady, be gentle with finesse, they will last longer. lol  && && && %.% %.%

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put the clear mylar style of flipper guards on for piece of mind (especially for all those AC/DC being purchased -
http://pinballpal.com/stealth/#Flipper
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I have found these peel off and look crappy after a while with sweat. Swinksy, someone put them on my minty Popeye and they peeled, leaving me to re-decal the machine etc. (I was doing it anyway, but they peeled and looked crappy for sure)  I dont know of anything that really suits a new in Box machine as of yet ?

I might have to wear white cotton gloves with the AC/DC and do like the Japaneese do !.lol  %.%

I think homeuse with no slapping wil leave the machine to stay minty for ages, hopefully, unless custom metal ones can be made for AC/DC in chrome which look the goods (new friggin task to follow up !)

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Just to add to the wear around the flipper buttons, my Iron Man has the Candy Apple Powdercoated Armour Trim and it must be noted that the paint has chipped off (about size of a 5 cent piece but elongated a little) on the left side about 4-5 cms from the button towards the lockdown bar = lots of guys who are married (guessing). I checked the play count and 4200 paid games have been played.

So those people getting a AC/DC - LE or Premium just be aware, though not sure on the solution but you may start to see wear on the left side after a while. Maybe some vinyl start button protectors from pinball pal ????
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