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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2009, 05:12:12 PM »

P.S. Yanks still pay a lot for their DMD pins IMO

The 90% more aussies pay is 90% more than the world average. Yanks pay 5% more than the world average. Germans pay 30% less than the world average. However top end titles fetch similar dollars here and in the USA. Pins are a luxury, but its criminal how much we are ripped on the neccessity of food.

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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2009, 08:00:27 PM »
We pay way too much for our pins.  Even though they have come down a little at the moment they are still expensive. 

I predict that all prices on pins in Australia will plummet in the next 5-10 years.  Lets face it most (not all) collectors are over 35++. Most (not all) under this age couldnt give a stuff about pinball.  Eventually all us old farts or our kids when were gone will end up flooding the Australian market with pins as we die or downsize.  So there will be a shit load of pins on ebay and no one will want them.

This is a fact....

I know some of you will think Im full of crap, but trust me this will happen.  **&
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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2009, 08:21:49 PM »
We pay way too much for our pins.  Even though they have come down a little at the moment they are still expensive. 

I predict that all prices on pins in Australia will plummet in the next 5-10 years.  Lets face it most (not all) collectors are over 35++. Most (not all) under this age couldnt give a stuff about pinball.  Eventually all us old farts or our kids when were gone will end up flooding the Australian market with pins as we die or downsize.  So there will be a shit load of pins on ebay and no one will want them.

This is a fact....

I know some of you will think Im full of crap, but trust me this will happen.  **&

Yeh..... er thanks for that.. you really lifted me with that post  !!!  !!!

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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2009, 08:26:21 PM »
We pay way too much for our pins.  Even though they have come down a little at the moment they are still expensive. 

I predict that all prices on pins in Australia will plummet in the next 5-10 years.  Lets face it most (not all) collectors are over 35++. Most (not all) under this age couldnt give a stuff about pinball.  Eventually all us old farts or our kids when were gone will end up flooding the Australian market with pins as we die or downsize.  So there will be a shit load of pins on ebay and no one will want them.

This is a fact....

I know some of you will think Im full of crap, but trust me this will happen.  **&

Yeh..... er thanks for that.. you really lifted me with that post  !!!  !!!

Yeah I am a pretty up beat sort of guy  *)*
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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2009, 08:35:11 PM »
We pay way too much for our pins.  Even though they have come down a little at the moment they are still expensive. 

I predict that all prices on pins in Australia will plummet in the next 5-10 years.  Lets face it most (not all) collectors are over 35++. Most (not all) under this age couldnt give a stuff about pinball.  Eventually all us old farts or our kids when were gone will end up flooding the Australian market with pins as we die or downsize.  So there will be a shit load of pins on ebay and no one will want them.

This is a fact....

I know some of you will think Im full of crap, but trust me this will happen.  **&

Yeh..... er thanks for that.. you really lifted me with that post  !!!  !!!

Yeah I am a pretty up beat sort of guy  *)*
I agree with your comments Dean.Not sure on the time frame.I can't wait for the cheap prices but I'll probably be too old to be carting pins around. #*#
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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2009, 08:44:13 PM »
Just look on eBay now and see just how high the prices are!
eg. Gottlieb Surfer $4750
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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2009, 09:29:25 PM »
Just look on eBay now and see just how high the prices are!
eg. Gottlieb Surfer $4750

Hmm, well the commercial guys list crazy prices like that to fish for suckers.

They are entitled to do this.  However, all it does is prop up eBay with listing fees, and creates delusional private sellers.

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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2009, 09:37:26 PM »
We pay way too much for our pins.  Even though they have come down a little at the moment they are still expensive. 

I predict that all prices on pins in Australia will plummet in the next 5-10 years.  Lets face it most (not all) collectors are over 35++. Most (not all) under this age couldnt give a stuff about pinball.  Eventually all us old farts or our kids when were gone will end up flooding the Australian market with pins as we die or downsize.  So there will be a shit load of pins on ebay and no one will want them.

This is a fact....

I know some of you will think Im full of crap, but trust me this will happen.  **&

I cannot disagree with your thoughts, but I give you this..

This EXACT scenario happened 20 years - except worse. No one wanted pinballs. KISS pins for $200 anyone ? You couldn't give them away..

30 years before that (maybe earlier) - same thing - They were outlawed. No one wanted pins.

The younger generation are not exposed to pinball, but if they were, different story.

Pinball demand VS supply and popularity is cyclical. History has proved this.



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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2009, 10:33:50 PM »
We pay way too much for our pins.  Even though they have come down a little at the moment they are still expensive. 

I predict that all prices on pins in Australia will plummet in the next 5-10 years.  Lets face it most (not all) collectors are over 35++. Most (not all) under this age couldnt give a stuff about pinball.  Eventually all us old farts or our kids when were gone will end up flooding the Australian market with pins as we die or downsize.  So there will be a shit load of pins on ebay and no one will want them.

Ok, I'll bite %.%  Plummet - way, way too strong and I also think the wrong direction.

Yep. most of us are over 35.  We now have increasing resources to fritter away on on our passions in a sad, desperate attempt to relive the glory days of our youth.  Home loans paid off, kids gone, or both soon to be, so more room and more money and looking for things to amuse us in retirement and make us feel younger.  TV shows like Collectors and articles in the SMH and Age on the nostalgia, collectability, value and desirability of pins   Widespread info on the web on how to maintain them, show of your work and skills, the over the shoulder reminiscent  look of how things were "really good" in the old days etc   Thanks to ebay widely available pins without having to know someone, look in the back alleys of milkbars or council chuck out days, no need to get up early to scour garage sales etc. All we need is deep pockets, which we have due to more disposable income and desire, which we also have.

In my opinion, over the next 10 years prices will undoubtedly  rise. Take a peak of SS machines from around the late 70's, early 80's when the player was 15-20. That means they are about 35- 50 so will be going strong for at least another 15 years; 25 years would not be unreasonable.   I think what is lowering the prices at the moment is the general depression of the economy - whether real or not, the perception is there and secondly there has been an influx of imported container machines.  To me this seems to have lowered the price of earlier DMD's, depressed SS machines that aren't top line titles and EMs have stayed about the same. All of them are decreasing in number.

This is a fact....

no,this is wild speculation and supposition on your part  :lol


I know some of you will think Im full of crap, <snip>

On this we agree  ^^^ 

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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2009, 11:19:14 PM »
pricing will change much sooner than later, why do you think dealers are scrambling for every container they can get (makin hay whilst the sun shines)

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Re: We pay 90% more for our pins!
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2009, 12:02:27 AM »
I totally agree with Firepower. Prices will rise, not fall. Basic economics with the age old rule of supply versus demand will always apply.

Look at Real Estate. It always rises over time. Prices Always higher.
Look at Classic Cars like 1974 to 1978 Ford 2 door coupes. Prices Always Higher.
Look at anything that is a limited number and of quality build to start with. Prices always higher.

I will say, without trying to offend anyone, most pinballs prior to the late 80's/90's stuff, will not rise as much as the DMD stuff, except a few select titles, because  they are just not as exciting to play for the newer generations of younger kids, but pinball prices will always be higher for late 80's and 90's stuff. To say it will plummet, is certainly not in my realm of thinking, but i could be wrong, it happens a few times every ten years, LOL.

I always say "they are not making any more of them, so get in whilst u can".(my comment excludes the new stuff stern is making, meaning they arent making twilights or indys etc)
Buy up, Buy up.  Smart advice i reckon.  ^^^  ^^^  ^^^
P.S- if u see the poor state of the stuff getting around germany, u would pay alot less for it too. We are on a great wicket here in OZ.
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