embryon pf resto worth it advice

[pinball god]

Would like some thoughts on what other members would do if in my position. The game is an embryon and it will be a keeper due to the me liking looks and game play of this title.

It does have wear in the usual top lock area and planking as well as Mylar that is in good condition,

I'm considering a high end resto on the Pf but don't know if I'm going over the top seeing most of these restos are on dmd games or highly desirable ss like paragon. Do you think I'm maybe over spending on such a title in your opinion? I could try doing it myself but I do know finding another Pf is near impossible if I stuff up. Or should I just leave it and save the cash for something more worthwhile.

I know its a personal preference thing but I am interested in any thoughts. Thanks

Btw the backglass is average condition and cabinet needs repainting but still acceptable. Electronically plays perfectly

[pinnies4me]

As you said, definitely a personal preference thing. For example, I am about to repaint my Black Hole, and Tim is currently restoring the playfield. Taking account of the purchase price of the base game, the dollars and time spent doing the electronics mods, the failed playfield restoration in the US, the cost of the current playfield resto, etc - this game will owe much, much more than it would be worth to sell (although it will be pristine when done, so who knows....). I guess the point is, if the game is a genuine keeper for you (as BH is for me), then a "no expense spared" restoration if not about what it owes at the end, but about what the finished game means to you.

[ktm450]

+1 if you are going to keep it anyway then it doesn't matter how much you spend on it, totally up to you and your funds. 

[Strangeways]

Keeper = money is no object !

Embryon is a game I would not hesitate to have professionally restored. In fact, I want mine restored and clearcoated. Same with Paragon. I think "Holy Grail" pinballs should have the kitchen sink thrown at them and Keepers are not too far behind.

I'm in exactly the same boat Rob, and I'm definitely restoring mine.

[Mr Pinbologist]

Keeper = money is no object !

Embryon is a game I would not hesitate to have professionally restored. In fact, I want mine restored and clearcoated. Same with Paragon. I think "Holy Grail" pinballs should have the kitchen sink thrown at them and Keepers are not too far behind.

I'm in exactly the same boat Rob, and I'm definitely restoring mine.

Totally agree  If its a holy grail title and a keeper then no expense should be spared 

[pinball god]

Keeper = money is no object !

Embryon is a game I would not hesitate to have professionally restored. In fact, I want mine restored and clearcoated. Same with Paragon. I think "Holy Grail" pinballs should have the kitchen sink thrown at them and Keepers are not too far behind.

I'm in exactly the same boat Rob, and I'm definitely restoring mine.

thanks guys please understand my asking as sometimes a person can lose sight on reality and regret it later like moding cars to the point they have cost too much and sometimes stop working due to the tinkering.

I've had this game for a little while and it has grown very much on me hence my thinking of making it real nice. And yes Nino there may be a kitchen sink involved and it may be thrown at me by the wife   nah she's pretty good to me.

Thanks again for the advice, I think I'll contact Tim and Nino to do their various talents on it in the near future.

[Freiherr]

The earlier posts say it all. This is one of the few Bally sleepers and I have never seen one. A good restore with dollar and time spent will mean that you will have a rare and desirable machine from the golden era. Lucky you kept it all those years.

[ghali]

If it's worth it to you, it's worth it.

My Gorgar has been getting the high end treatment for the last 2 years (and counting)  Tim's been working on the pf for the last 12 months. I had a brand new bg and full set of brand new pinballpcb.com circuit boards shipped over from the states.

I estimate when I finally finish, he'll owe me over 5k.

[Toads]

If you think it's a keeper go for it. My Paragon isn't back together yet and it's cost me around 6 k so far.
Read the posts, there are certainly lots of SS machines still getting the full treatment.

[wiredoug]

Just dont expect to get the money or the time back when you sell it.  It will be worth what someone will pay, not what you spent.
If you can afford it and it makes you happy. Its totally worth it.

[Retropin]

Its always worth restoring a PF.. even more so if you can do it yourself.
Not many people like to do this kind of work commercially as the time spent is not worth the end cost... hours far exceed payment. If you do get it done outside, don't expect to get it back anytime soon.. its a long and laborious exercise and one that many a restorer will have to walk away from time to time just to keep sane.
But bottom line " is Embryon worth it?"... absolutely, its a rare and exciting Bally title with a killer BG. Not many come up for sale and if they do they are worn to a nubbin... why?? Cos its a bloody great player!

..LOL- wish it were mine

[Crashramp]

It's a beautiful looking game Rob ( in pictures anyway, never seen one in the flesh unfortunately). You just can't beat the art work on the Bally's of that era. As others have said, I think that If it's a keeper then cost is secondary and if it was mine I'd go for it for sure.

[pinball god]

Thanks guys have contacted Tim on the playfield resto and will send him some photos. Hopefully Nino might be willing to try the cabinet side of things. My only real concern is the time factor, I dunno if I could handle it off the road for 12 months   I'll see.

[Strangeways]

Thanks guys have contacted Tim on the playfield resto and will send him some photos. Hopefully Nino might be willing to try the cabinet side of things. My only real concern is the time factor, I dunno if I could handle it off the road for 12 months   I'll see.

Tim is the man with the playfield restoration - especially when they are really bad. Cabinet would be straight forward. I need to get Gav to do a set of stencils for mine, so now he has two customers  for these stencils

[Retropin]

OK!!! EMBRYON it is!.. after PARAGON though.
Hours and hours vectorising on the computer. time ill never get back in my life... hate computers...its hot outside and I could be in the pool... mumble mumble.
They will be top notch though and the best on the market.... bloody guarantee that