EM game play

[pinball god]

I don't want to upset anyone, but after having a game at Marks (Marta Hari), I found it extremely easy and boring. I remember plaing these games and thinking they were fun, but since the advent of DMD, I can't get into them. I reckon I could have played this game for ever without too much trouble keeping the ball in play.

My question is to those that collect these games as to why? Do you collect them for show, artwork & nostalga or do you enjoy collecting them for game play reasons?

I think I'd buy one of these to just enjoy looking at it. I don't think I'd play it.

Please don't take this as an isult as its not intended.

[ddstoys]

I collect them for the wow factor i think as i rarely play any of my machines i mainly hope they breakdown so i can fix em lol

[Strangeways]

I grew up on EMs and SS machines, only "recently" getting into DMDs. I have a simply gorgeous Indy in my garage at the moment that plays like new. But I play 2 or 3 games and I switch it off. I'll play Paragon for an hour or so, and 20-30 minutes on Medusa.

The only two games even close to an SS or EM would be CV or Scared Stiff.

I've always had the notion that DMDs "need" the extra lights and whistles because they are simply boring to play. Or there is just too much going on, and you struggle to find the ball, let alone the rules to play it. DMDs are simply too easy. They NEED the toys and flashing lights to entice the player.

I collect SS and EM pins because they are simply better machines than DMDs in my opinion. They are tons more fun to play and they are harder to beat.

A restored SS or EM will always be a welcome addition to my collection. DMDs just don't do it for me !

But everyone is different !
 

[ajlaird]

To date I own a DMD and an SS - I am starting to think the gameplay on the SS is better than on the DMD.

So the answer is: it depends on the title and what your idea of good gameplay is. To me, it is the one that keeps saying 'play me and try to beat the high score' that has the better gameplay. This one will maintain my long-term interest.

If an EM can do that for me I would see it as a keeper. If it can't I would move it on.

That Mata Hari should be worth a bit as the EM version is pretty rare.

And Daniel, why don't you drop a few pins off to my shed - I will try to make them break down for you.

[Strangeways]

The EM is SS, Andrew.

[markc]

God

I have to agree   

I guess this is why My RS is at work next to the MArti Hari ,  I do  like DMD s  better   but still have fav ones I play
I will never get rid of my rocky   but I am leaning to keeping a EM at home for a while  and see how that goes

but think I will not bring home anymore toys for a while ......

[ajlaird]

The EM is SS, Andrew.

OK, the title is confusing then - it does say EM game play???

[MartyJ]

I've only ever had one EM...A KingPin which I'm kicking myself about getting rid of.  I'm still aiming to get another EM some day.  I've played a few in my time, but given by the time I was old enough to play (10 or so), most had gone from the sites (well, at least pins were sited back then!)...
If I could find one which I enjoyed the game on, I would definately keep.

Bring on the 5-ball!

[Ford Fairlane]

I collect them for the wow factor i think as i rarely play any of my machines i mainly hope they breakdown so i can fix em lol

Daniel... are you coming up to sydney any time soon ... i know of a couple of EM's that could use some work 

[illawarra_steelers]

If we all collected the same kind of pins it sure would be boring.

I can fully understand why people collect all types of pins. I have owned alot of SS and DMDs over the years but they don't get used after a week as I find them too easy to play. Don't collect them (or even pick them up cheap) anymore.

Alot of the early SS pins play just like EMs with some extra features.

Why do I only collect and adore 1950 to 1965 pins? They have a history - imagine if they could talk, the way they look - simply pieces of art. Restoring a game that is over 50 years old takes alot of skill, patience and the hunt for parts is a rush. Also the game play is difficult, there is alot of skill required, especially with games with 2" flippers.

I have taken some closeups of some of the art on my games and will post them in the next few days 

[ddstoys]

Hey Rob Sydneys not looking like any time soon but if i was there id have them up and running for you asap

[bossninja17]

Whether it be EMs or solid state - it is more than just the game. It is knowing that the big clunky thing has stood somewhere and witnessed kids growing up or men refusing to. I love my EMs because they remind me of a time gone by; I love the smell inside the cabinet; I love how making a switch open or shut can make all sorts of things happen. Call it nostalgia - EMs were part of my "wonder years". But it is still more: its the artwork, its the thrill of lighting specials, its know the history of how these things developed.

[Rod71]

I don't want to upset anyone, but after having a game at Marks (Marta Hari), I found it extremely easy and boring. I remember plaing these games and thinking they were fun, but since the advent of DMD, I can't get into them. I reckon I could have played this game for ever without too much trouble keeping the ball in play.

Sounds like the MH needs some attention then. Because all those late 70's Bally symmetrical layouts had pretty unforgiving outlanes. It should be the case where you can kick it's arse one minute and the next it will make you look like a noob.

 

[Strangeways]

I don't want to upset anyone, but after having a game at Marks (Marta Hari), I found it extremely easy and boring. I remember plaing these games and thinking they were fun, but since the advent of DMD, I can't get into them. I reckon I could have played this game for ever without too much trouble keeping the ball in play.

Sounds like the MH needs some attention then. Because all those late 70's Bally symmetrical layouts had pretty unforgiving outlanes. It should be the case where you can kick it's arse one minute and the next it will make you look like a noob.

 

Mata Hari and Hot Hand needed work. In all fairness, comparing a reconditioned DMD to a reconditioned (or non reconditioned) SS or EM is not an even playing field. To get an SS up to a standard of a machine 17 years its junior requires more time spent on it.

[sniper]

didnt this machine come out in both em and ss?