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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #60 on: May 01, 2009, 10:38:11 AM »
Looking forward to a game on that one Daniel, seeing Matt broke it last time...

Oi, not true  :lol

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #61 on: May 01, 2009, 04:22:53 PM »
Hey Tony
               I do have one but it has been broken and glued back together . If you have a spare that would be great
 Thanks

No worries,

Will send up with the other stuff when it's ready. Also noticed on game there is a beehive on the lower ball plunger - that isn't supposed to be there, so when you do your respray take that off and fill any holes (if any)

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #62 on: May 01, 2009, 04:37:01 PM »
Yeah it does have a bee hive and two extra holes drilled so ill fill them and use the ball lift from the Continental Cafe

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #63 on: May 02, 2009, 11:24:32 PM »
Well i cracked the shits with the Rock pinball and decided id do a bit more to marathon.  I made up a dodgy piece of wood to complete the apron and connect all the pop bumpers and reinstall all the standup switches.  Once that was all done it was ready for the big test..............

 Guess what happened??

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2009, 11:26:56 PM »
You guessed it.    Didnt work grrr was fully working before i stripped it but wasnt once it was done.   So i spent the night trying to get it going again finally got a game from it aslong as you dont score one point as the one point score reel is sticking.  Hopefully i get a chance tomorrow the rebuild the reel and get a full game from the old girl.

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #65 on: May 03, 2009, 03:20:10 PM »
Well i finally got my first full game on Marathon today after finding a light socket that was occasionally shorting out and blowing the light fuse we had lights and away i went.   Found a few little issues like one pop bumper occasionally sticks and a few relays are noise buat apart from that all the scoring and specials all work as they should.   Once i strip it down for the cabinet respray ill rebuild the bottom of the playfield and relays but untill then it will be staying as it is.

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #66 on: May 03, 2009, 04:35:30 PM »
Well i finally got my first full game on Marathon today after finding a light socket that was occasionally shorting out and blowing the light fuse we had lights and away i went.   Found a few little issues like one pop bumper occasionally sticks and a few relays are noise buat apart from that all the scoring and specials all work as they should.   Once i strip it down for the cabinet respray ill rebuild the bottom of the playfield and relays but untill then it will be staying as it is.

Congrats Daniel . ^^^
 Must have been a fantastic feeling to play that 1st full game  *%*
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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #67 on: May 03, 2009, 05:35:07 PM »
Yep first game was great so was the second lol  Here are some pics of it lit up but hard to get a good photo with the lights on.
 This is how the old girl will sit for a while until i clean up the backlog of machines im working on for other people. Hope you have enjoyed the restore so far as much as i have

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2009, 02:01:28 PM »
Well done Daniel, looks great  ^^^

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #69 on: May 06, 2009, 04:55:51 PM »
Well the playfield is a done as its going to be until i do the cabinet respray so ive been researching what the original design looked like.  Ive gound a photo of the original design which matches the flyer but im just unsure of the colors.   
  To me i think the side colors would be similar to the playfield colors but they are just faded and stained in the photo

  What are your thought?

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #70 on: May 07, 2009, 07:36:33 AM »
The playfield and the cab would of been built at 2 different spots in Chicago. From memory the only part that Gottlieb didn't make for their games was the cabs whih were contracted out.

Suppose it depends on how fussy you are regarding matching the exact colours....even a close colour match when all resprayed will look so much better than what you have at present.

Just be warned though - that respray will be a massive job that will take weeks  *%*

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2009, 09:37:56 AM »

Daniel - The photo is not accurate !

The siderails are varnished - not Red. Although your lock down bar should be wood, not metal. Maybe ask Mark if he has the original and swap it over ? chances are that the machine arrived like that..

I would repaint it.

But I would do a lot of research to ensure the restoration of the cabinet is faithful to the original. You could also remake the legs.

One hell of an undertaking, but the reward would be worth it in my view !
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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #72 on: May 07, 2009, 03:46:29 PM »
Tony put me onto a bloke who has a lockdown bar for sale but he has gone quiet so ill be patient. Legs will be a pain but ill get there.  And im going to enjoy playing the machine for a few weeks before i strip it for the respray stripping it back will suck as im sure it will be lead based paint.  *!@

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #73 on: May 08, 2009, 10:22:31 PM »
 $#$   Yeah i got an email from the guy regarding the lock bar i should have a postage cost this weekend  $#$

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Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
« Reply #74 on: May 09, 2009, 08:36:33 AM »
This was an email back from Clay regarding either to varnish or stain the timber:

Neither. The original finish used on side rails was lacquer.
If you want to do a nice woodrail finish, i recommend this.

1. sand rails. do not go nuts and try and make them look
perfect. you're missing the point if you do. go 100, 150, 220,400.

2. stain rails. the original finish was nitrocellulose
lacquer. it yellows something fierce, which anyone in
the finish biz would think as "bad". hence the change to
acyrlic lacquer in the 1960s. but you need to get that "look".

I use ainline alcohol dyes. Yellow with a touch of red and brown.
apply with a rag to the rails. Dries in minutes.

3. Spray with Krylon Crystal Clear or Triple Thick. Both are
basically acrylic lacquer. Don't put too much on! If using
TT, it needs only 1 or 2 coats compared to 3 coats with CC.

4. optional: let dry, then lightly sand with 1000 grit.
Take a rag and some Novus2 and polish.


Hope this helps.

As with the metal lockdown and side rails  ^.^ The ops did this around 1960/61 once all the woodrail games were now being made as steel rail games.....bastards! Anyways PBR has single player rails available - they are US$32 each (from memory) but they don't make the multiplayer rails that were wider.

Also Daniel - did you know that the rails had cigarette holders on the rails? PBR sells reproduction of these also:

Gottlieb Reproduction Cigarette Holders #A3889+ US$6.27ea