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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2016, 06:51:53 AM »
prices are US MSRP

August 2016 / Batman 66 / Pro - canned / not available this time around
August 2016 / Batman 66 / Premium (probably be the new Pro concept in 2017) / $8599
August 2016 / Batman 66 / LE (240 only) / $9999
August 2016 / Batman 66 / Super LE (30 only) / $14999

Aug 2016 / PBR Can Crusher / Boutique / $6399 (limited time and only via PBR)

March 2016 / Ghostbusters / Pro / $5995
March 2016 / Ghostbusters / Premium / $7595
March 2016 / Ghostbusters / LE / $8795

January 2016 / Spiderman VE (Comic Version) / $7595

September 2015 / Game of Thrones / Pro / $5995
September 2015 / Game of Thrones / Premium / $7595
September 2015 / Game of Thrones / LE / $8795

May 2015 / Kiss / Pro / $5995
May 2015 / Kiss / Premium / $7595
May 2015 / Kiss / LE / $8795

March / 2015 / Whoa Nellie / Boutique / $6499

January / 2015 / WWE / Pro / $5495
January / 2015 / WWE / LE / $8595

December / 2014 / The Walking Dead / Premium / $7595
September / 2014 / The Walking Dead / Pro / $5995
September / 2014 / The Walking Dead / LE / $8595

August / 2014 / Metallica / Pro LED / $5595

June / 2014 / Iron Man VE / Pro / $5495

March / 2014 / Mustang / Pro / $5395
March / 2014 / Mustang / Premium / $7495
March / 2014 / Mustang / LE / $8495

December / 2013 / AC/DC Luci Premium / $7495

September / 2013 / Star Trek / Pro / $5395
September / 2013 / Star Trek / Premium / $7495
September / 2013 / Star Trek / LE / $8795

April / 2013 / Metallica / Pro / $4995
April / 2013 / Metallica / Premium / $6995 (Monsters & Road Case)
April / 2013 / Metallica / LE / $7595

November / 2012 / Avengers / Pro / $5699
November / 2012 / Avengers / LE (2 models) / $8099

October / 2012 / Transformers "The Pin" / $4000

June / 2012 / X-Men / Pro / $5699
June / 2012 / X-Men / LE (2 models) / $7999

March / 2012 / AC/DC / Pro / $5699
March / 2012 / AC/DC / Premium / $7699
March / 2012 / AC/DC / LE (2 models) / $8499

September / 2011 / Transformer / Pro / $4795
September / 2011 / Transformer / LE (3 models ?) / $6999

May / 2011 / Tron / Pro / $4799
May / 2011 / Tron / LE / $5999

January / 2011 / Rolling Stones / Pro / $4799
January / 2011 / Rolling Stones / LE / $5999

August / 2011 / Avatar / Pro / $4799
August / 2011 / Avatar / LE / $5999

LE's did not really exist before Avatar

April / 2010 / IronMan / Pro / $4799
April / 2010 / IronMan / Classic (Home) / $3799
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2016, 09:11:31 AM »
Premium is the new entry level, and to buy an entry level Stern pinball it will cost $11,500 at current exchange rates + shipping.

I hope the next model does have the Pro as an option. I can't see many sales at $12-$13K for a new machine.
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #62 on: September 17, 2016, 11:14:24 PM »
Premium is the new entry level, and to buy an entry level Stern pinball it will cost $11,500 at current exchange rates + shipping.

I hope the next model does have the Pro as an option. I can't see many sales at $12-$13K for a new machine.

All reports are saying that this is a "special" release and that the next game will go back to normal with Pro as an option. I'm guessing they'll sneak in a new price rise for the Pro. The colour lcd tax we'll call it?

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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2016, 05:06:46 PM »
SLE Batman 66 increased from 30 to 80 units because so many people are throwing big dollars at them - this just made the bubble a little bigger.

Takrn from a letter from Stern to a customer:

Demand for this Super Limited Edition was incredible. We were overwhelmed with fantastic applications and it was difficult to decide who should get these games. In fact, in fairness we could not reject enough applications.
Due to this demand, we have increased the quantity to 80:
· 30 for the 30 years of Stern Pinball beginning with 1986, and
· 50 for the 50 years of Batman ’66 beginning with 1966.
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #64 on: November 01, 2016, 07:02:24 PM »
What if you bought it because its only limited to 30? A bit like buying a one off and then finding two or three or wtf.
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #65 on: November 01, 2016, 07:28:35 PM »
What if you bought it because its only limited to 30? A bit like buying a one off and then finding two or three or wtf.

yes agree with you, they are just cashing in especially when it is direct and it was bumped up from 30 to 80 units of SLE's
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #66 on: November 29, 2016, 07:57:34 PM »
Superman - "the pin" / home edition and possible the new version of games is being trialed.

in the US apparently the MRSP is $3800
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #67 on: November 29, 2016, 07:59:11 PM »
cabinet looks a tad smaller sitting next to the Stern WW.
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #68 on: November 29, 2016, 08:00:54 PM »
prices are US MSRP

November 2016 / Spiderman /  The Pin or Home version / $3799

August 2016 / Batman 66 / Pro - canned / not available this time around
August 2016 / Batman 66 / Premium (probably be the new Pro concept in 2017) / $8599
August 2016 / Batman 66 / LE (240 only) / $9999
August 2016 / Batman 66 / Super LE (30 only) / $14999

Aug 2016 / PBR Can Crusher / Boutique / $6399 (limited time and only via PBR)

March 2016 / Ghostbusters / Pro / $5995
March 2016 / Ghostbusters / Premium / $7595
March 2016 / Ghostbusters / LE / $8795

January 2016 / Spiderman VE (Comic Version) / $7595

September 2015 / Game of Thrones / Pro / $5995
September 2015 / Game of Thrones / Premium / $7595
September 2015 / Game of Thrones / LE / $8795

May 2015 / Kiss / Pro / $5995
May 2015 / Kiss / Premium / $7595
May 2015 / Kiss / LE / $8795

March / 2015 / Whoa Nellie / Boutique / $6499

January / 2015 / WWE / Pro / $5495
January / 2015 / WWE / LE / $8595

December / 2014 / The Walking Dead / Premium / $7595
September / 2014 / The Walking Dead / Pro / $5995
September / 2014 / The Walking Dead / LE / $8595

August / 2014 / Metallica / Pro LED / $5595

June / 2014 / Iron Man VE / Pro / $5495

March / 2014 / Mustang / Pro / $5395
March / 2014 / Mustang / Premium / $7495
March / 2014 / Mustang / LE / $8495

December / 2013 / AC/DC Luci Premium / $7495

September / 2013 / Star Trek / Pro / $5395
September / 2013 / Star Trek / Premium / $7495
September / 2013 / Star Trek / LE / $8795

April / 2013 / Metallica / Pro / $4995
April / 2013 / Metallica / Premium / $6995 (Monsters & Road Case)
April / 2013 / Metallica / LE / $7595

November / 2012 / Avengers / Pro / $5699
November / 2012 / Avengers / LE (2 models) / $8099

October / 2012 / Transformers "The Pin" / $4000

June / 2012 / X-Men / Pro / $5699
June / 2012 / X-Men / LE (2 models) / $7999

March / 2012 / AC/DC / Pro / $5699
March / 2012 / AC/DC / Premium / $7699
March / 2012 / AC/DC / LE (2 models) / $8499

September / 2011 / Transformer / Pro / $4795
September / 2011 / Transformer / LE (3 models ?) / $6999

May / 2011 / Tron / Pro / $4799
May / 2011 / Tron / LE / $5999

January / 2011 / Rolling Stones / Pro / $4799
January / 2011 / Rolling Stones / LE / $5999

August / 2011 / Avatar / Pro / $4799
August / 2011 / Avatar / LE / $5999

LE's did not really exist before Avatar

April / 2010 / IronMan / Pro / $4799
April / 2010 / IronMan / Classic (Home) / $3799
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #69 on: December 08, 2016, 06:46:43 PM »
here is a video of the Spiderman Home Edition

https://www.facebook.com/ThePinballCompany/videos/1178941498839946/
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #70 on: December 08, 2016, 07:17:24 PM »
 @@* looks and appears to plays better than I thought it would.  Wonder if they will show up in Aus? and how much?
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #71 on: December 10, 2016, 06:39:00 AM »
a guy in the US played the Spiderman Home version and thought it was worth sharing incase felt tempted to buy one and what he didn't mention is that when on slingshot activated it activated both showing the cost cutting features of the game as well.

Not having a coin door is not good. Yes this game was built for home use only but with the high MSRP, it does not make this machine worth the coin. If you have a coin door and coin mechs, then you could at least try and put on location to make an income and it would hold value based on the fact it could potentially be an earner. With this machine being priced $1000 less than a Pro model, it clearly is not a good value. If it was priced at $2800-then maybe it would be worth it to a homeowner?

I was able to play the new Spiderman and here are my thoughts....
First thing is it is much smaller than a standard machine and would not look good in a typical lineup. Second is this machine is really light and thus feels really wobbly and not very sturdy. You can easily shake the machine back and forth because of the lightweight cabinet. The layout actually flows pretty good and the ball times are long. The flippers are very responsive and I was surprised on how well they played. Main target is a Doc Ock with drop down targets located on left side instead of the middle with Sandman. It played very basic with not a lot of frills. The DMD pixels look very generic and honestly-cheap. There was one thing that I really liked about the game, and that was the ball stuck feature. It is a brilliant feature where the ball gets caught in a trap on purpose and you have to knock it with the ball in play to remove it. When I first got the ball stuck there I was like-WTF? Then I bent over and read what it was and was like-that's awesome!

I commend Stern for trying to expand their customer base and get more homeowners into the hobby but unfortunately these pinball machines with a lower build quality and no coin door simply are not the solution. Stern has tried to enter this market with the Iron Man/Batman Classic and the "Pin" with little to zero success. They had to blow out the remaining "Pin" models at a discount. I think a pinball machine built for the average homeowner would need to be priced at $2000 or less which is not feasible. Now if Stern were to make a downgraded Pro model priced at $3800 with a coin door for operators, then I think they could potentially sell more units to potential new customers. I think people would be more willing to spend thousands of dollars on a toy if they know they can sell it for close to what they paid for it. Having a coin door will help the machine hold it's value. You can only cheapen a machine so much before it becomes just a paperweight, and worthless. If Stern keeps the coin door and can get the build cost down without compromising much quality-then they may have an opportunity to capture more new blood into the hobby.
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #72 on: December 10, 2016, 02:27:09 PM »
If the problem is needing to increase sales volume, then the answer is not a cut down version of a game. Its simple, lower the base price of future or even existing games. Costs should in theory drop with volume. But pinball machines are so labour intensive, so I'm amazed the closest any manufacturer has got to automation is the dimpler which is a bastardized press that by the look of it may have cast on it the letters 'WW1'

With what I see from a lot of the production line vids, I am surprised they use cad software and not pencils and a whole lot of rulers.

But back to the possible problem, a coin door is not the answer and so isn't raising the price for every new release.
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2017, 08:36:20 AM »
Photos just came out today of Aerosmith so thought to capture the AMD (Sydney) pricing as of 5th Jan 2017 before they add that to their lineup - rumoured to go up the following in the US (not sure on us)
Pro - $200
Premium - $300
LE - $200

Batman 66
Premium - $12500
LE – Sold Out

Ghostbusters
Pro - $8150
Premium - $10650
LE – Sold Out

Spiderman VE
VE - $10650

Game of Thrones
Pro - $8150
Premium - $10650
LE – Sold Out

Kiss
Pro - $8150
Premium - $10650
LE – Sold Out

Whoa Nellie
Studio Game - $9650

The Walking Dead

Pro - $8150
Premium - $10650
LE – Sold Out

Star Trek
Pro - $8150
Premium - $10650
LE – Sold Out

Metallica
Pro - $8150
Premium - $10650
LE – Sold Out
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Re: Stern Price Comparison - Price Watch
« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2017, 02:56:21 PM »
well just after I posted the below the Pro went up $200. Can't remember what the last price of LE's were.

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