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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2016, 06:04:25 PM »
Sorry for the multiple post but remember row 7 could be shorted to column 1 at any point which will cause the same fault but the bottom jet is where the two are the closest.

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2016, 06:29:41 PM »
Well I guess that's why your the Mr Pinball Professor and I'm the novice cause you nailed it man!!!!!!! Disconnected the two row wires at Bottom Jet (17) and wella! Every lamp came on without any even glowing. Haven't seen that in a long time.  $#$ thank you very muchly!!!!!!!

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2016, 07:18:27 PM »
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Awesome man!! No problem at all, I'm stoked for ya. Was a real curly one there for a while. I'm no Professor but that matrix diagram of yours was the clincher which clued me in. Nice work. So satisfying when you fix a problem like that. Now you understand "THE MATRIX" .  %.%

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2016, 08:25:34 PM »
Reconnected Bottom Jet row wires and disconnected wires to 'Jet Bumpers'. All tested good. Short is in one of the 'Jet Bumpers'. Cheers Dan.


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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2016, 08:44:21 PM »
Cool, I'd be starting with the lower jet. Let us know what you find!

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2016, 04:47:48 PM »
Well it was a case of 'Captain Obvious!' Seems the wiring going into the 3 lamp board under the field for the jet bumpers was wired up incorrectly. Common was wired up correctly but.... ( and I use the term loosely!) the 3 ground wires were wired up into one row wire via the terminal block...DOH!!!!! Haven't put it to the test yet but am 99.9% sure that's it.

Can anyone help me to find a supplier of the smaller .100" white housing connectors. Have tried pspa and jaycar.

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2016, 09:15:37 AM »
https://www.greatplainselectronics.com/products.asp?cat=68

I bought them from these guys as I had trouble finding them in Aus. I tried RS online but it was too hard to know if I was ordering the right thing.

They are the crimp style which seem to be the go these days. You also will need a crimping tool, contacts and a key plugs to suit.

I tried to order enough stuff to make the postage worthwhile.

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2016, 06:21:24 PM »
Hey thanks. Checked out the link and ideally they have what I'm looking for. However, since I only require 1 .100" connector plug 7pin plus the contacts, if you have one, would you be willing to sell?. Feel funny asking. Obviously would pay for the piece and postage. Just thought I'd ask.

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2016, 06:50:32 PM »
Element 14 is another place in Aus worthy of trying, fast shipping as well

http://au.element14.com/te-connectivity-amp/770602-7/crimp-housing-cst-100-7way/dp/749990?ost=22-01-2077&selectedCategoryId=&categoryName=All+Categories&categoryNameResp=All+Categories


also if you have a iphone or ipad download a app called pintrix good for solving matrix issues
https://swinks.com.au

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2016, 08:58:48 PM »
Cool. That's gonna save a bundle! Man so much help on this site!! Luv it!

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2016, 09:32:52 PM »
Hey thanks. Checked out the link and ideally they have what I'm looking for. However, since I only require 1 .100" connector plug 7pin plus the contacts, if you have one, would you be willing to sell?. Feel funny asking. Obviously would pay for the piece and postage. Just thought I'd ask.

Funny thing, Just checked and I can't believe it but I do have a seven pin connector and crimps or grab them from Element 14 as Swinks found.

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2016, 08:56:42 AM »
Will go through Element 14 to save the hassle.

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2016, 09:03:45 AM »
Great, Element 14 no longer stock the connector. Will you consider my request Dan?

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2016, 10:34:48 AM »
PM your address and I'll post it to you.

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Re: Two Lamps On Instead Of One - RE; CFTBL
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2016, 08:33:02 PM »
UPDATE;
 Problem solved with a big help and thanks for all who replied and especially DSB (Dan the Man!) who was there all the way!
 Creature never had lamps in Jet Bumpers so the lamps that were in there already were creating confusing with the Lamp Matrix no matter whether I wired them up in series with a diode to the circuit board or stripped and crimped into connector. Two lamps came on at once.
So simply wired the lamps up to the GI under the field and bob's ya uncle!

 $&&