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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2017, 11:49:57 PM »
waiting patiently to see the next instalment. Need to look at maybe having a go at my cab myself soon once I find just a little more time.
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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2017, 09:47:06 AM »
waiting patiently to see the next instalment. Need to look at maybe having a go at my cab myself soon once I find just a little more time.

When you go down the round to repainting the cabinet, contact me prior as there are issues with stencils that have created a lot of extra work due to misrepresentation of the materials.
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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2018, 11:46:12 PM »
The cabinet repainting was a long saga, that finally, was completed after a long delay. I don't like to badmouth suppliers, but there are stencil providers that you simply should not go near.  I won't mention their name, as you cannot get ripped off by them any longer. They company is USA based. How I miss Gavin's stencils. so easy to use and always worked out. Anyway, I'll try and point out the issues along the way, but lets start with something positive.

I took the cabinet to my paint supplier and he matched the colours and the finish perfectly. There were a lot of repairs to this cabinet, particularly under the cabinet, which needed new wood trim. That was several sessions of repairs. Next the undercoat, and I had to do more coats than usual, as the timber was thirsty ! I don't like the "plastic" or "glass" look of other paints, I like a bit roughness - it is timber, not plastic. So I go authentic.

Here's the undercoat after the last sanding session ;







The base coat is applied, and is left in the sun to dry. This paint is touch dry in 5 minutes, ans after 2 hours in the sun, you can start stencil work. I don't risk doing that - I wait until the next day.











OK - So look away if you don't want to see a disaster in the making. I tried a test on the blue section of the headbox. I was not too concerned, and then the next day, I tried to align the black stencil, and no matter what I did, it was never going to line up as the "artist" drew the artwork with NO overlap at all. Making matters worse, the size was incorrect. This stencil is going to need work as it is also drawn incorrectly. So after spending time with tracing paper and doing a test run without paint, I had to modify the black stencil in several areas - denoted in texta below !





Lets apply the black stencil. Whoops - it does not stick !




Lets just keep going. Spend more time masking up the continual "tears" (and tears by this stage). Problems lining up..











Lets paint ! Remove the stencil.. Faaaaaaaaaark  !*!







How could anything turn up so F%^&ing Twisted ?

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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2018, 12:04:16 AM »
After hitting the panic button several times, and reading other such horror stories, I felt a little bit better. I emailed Jeff "Pinball Pimp" in the USA, and he was happy to make a set for me, as long as I could scan the artwork. Lucky for me, my personal Embryon is not yet sanded, so I scanned all the artwork, and sent the scans to Jeff. He took a while, but he sent me the stencils, and I was eager to try out his stencils. Originally, I was not happy with the stencils, and through trial and error, I worked out how to use the stencils with my method of painting. These stencils are designed more for Enamels and rattle cans. The thinners of Acrylic Lacquers eat away at the stencil if you don't apply thin coats. So rather than 2-3 coats, you have to move faster so that the paint has no time to bite into the stencil material. By the end of the painting process, it was working out perfectly for me.

Here we go with the blue on the front of the cabinet ;




Good start !





Now we start the sides ;





Here is the black lining up perfectly.





You can already tell that Jeff's stencils are hugely superior to the rubbish I was using before ;








Painting of the cabinet is completed !














Now I added the new sideraisl from the other Jeff (railways), and original legs from PBR ;








It took a LONG time, but we got there !

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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2018, 02:46:11 PM »
looking great

sucks about the first set of stencils

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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2018, 11:00:04 PM »
That looks amazing! Hopefully you and pinball pimp can form a partnership going forward and churn out different stencils.

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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2018, 11:21:13 PM »
VERY NICE Nino .. looks sweet as!!

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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2018, 03:43:13 AM »
Ohhh man the devastation of those first stencil


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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2018, 09:39:23 AM »
looking great

sucks about the first set of stencils

Embryon is a rare title, and unfortunately I was stuck with this one supplier. I tried to make it work, but the end product would have looked worse if I didn't approach Jeff.

That looks amazing! Hopefully you and pinball pimp can form a partnership going forward and churn out different stencils.

There are a couple more titles that will be restored using machines I have here.

Ohhh man the devastation of those first stencil


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Yep. But there was a steely resolve to have it done properly. Countless hours, but well worth it in the end.
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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2018, 05:23:06 PM »
Looks gorgeous Nino. The finished cabinet is well worth the effort you’ve put in.

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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2018, 07:25:12 PM »
Is it just me that cares more about how well a machine looks, rather than how it plays?  Not saying the play is not a factor, but it's a second priority to me.

This cabinet looks stunning.

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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2018, 09:39:29 PM »
Is it just me that cares more about how well a machine looks, rather than how it plays?  Not saying the play is not a factor, but it's a second priority to me.

This cabinet looks stunning.

The artwork on Ems and early SS machines, is that golden era of both artwork and gameplay. My personal collection is mostly games I remember as a child, so I have that connection. A game has to look attractive to be attractive. Sometimes, less is more. Pro Football is VERY basic artwork, but it draws you to the game as you identify it as being a sport themed game. Ro Go is a an average game bordering on mundane. But the artwork is iconic. I own this game and Viking. I don't care how they play, I LOVE the look.

Embryon is one of those games that has stunning artwork and is a fantastic player. Rare and collectible. That's why I have one myself.
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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2018, 03:43:24 PM »
looks magic. I like your little coded message about a twisted mess  %.%
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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2018, 03:00:15 AM »
That cabinet came out AWESOME! Great job! I love seeing my stencil artwork on the actual machine!

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Re: Bally Embryon High End Restoration #1
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2018, 03:49:41 PM »
That cabinet came out AWESOME! Great job! I love seeing my stencil artwork on the actual machine!

Very happy with the outcome - Thanks for the kind words. This Embryon is for a Collector, but I will be repainting my personal Embryon using your stencils. I have a couple more games to start using your stencils and I'll be ordering more very soon. Again - Thanks for your assistance Jeff.
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