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Sydney - Clear Coat
« on: May 19, 2009, 02:31:47 PM »
Hi there

I have finally gotten around to putting in for some long overdue leave and will be looking to attack a number of projects pretty hard during that time.

One of them is a super star boght from Tony (illawarra_steelers) a long time ago. The playfield had a bit of bare wood that has now been nicely touched up and cleaned.

I now want to get it clear coated - pretty much it seems there are no off the shelf products in Australia that will do the trick.

Has anyone in Sydney used anywhere they would recommend to have it done professionally?

Alterntively, and this is a bit of a cop out, could I just wax the PF or will this just lead to the wear returning over time

Cheers

Ric

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009, 03:51:53 PM »

It is always nicer to see a restored playfield on a "keeper" title. If it were me, there is no harm in some investigative work and they weight up the pros and cons. Maybe a compromise of a touch up on the playfield and mylar to protect it ?
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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2009, 04:00:37 PM »
Does everybody on this forum own at least one game that used to mine?  :lol

I can't even remember where that game came from!

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009, 05:24:38 PM »
at least one Tony, I have a number!!!

I think I you told me where this one came from originally at the time

I think with the older EM's sometimes the clear looks better than mylar

I have had an offer from an automotive place near me however I wanted to see if anyone had used someone they could recommend?

I initally thought about doing it myself but the products just don't seem to be out there

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2009, 11:11:50 PM »
Hi Ric.

What paints did you use to do the touch ups??

The PF will already have a very thin layer of clear over the top of it... now you have a choice - clear over ALL the PF or protect what you have touched up to match what already exists.

Were you at Expo?? I had a bally Lost World PF that was an example of touch up work there. I "cleared" over my work to match the existing finish - you cant see it at all

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 11:31:58 PM »
Yeah he was there! How could you miss him?

Motley Crue shirt and purple sideburns!

Oh the youngsters of today  :lol :lol

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2009, 09:50:16 AM »
the issue for me is that the PF had a lot of wear near the jet bumpers (that is what WMS called them right?) and then spot wear on other part sof the pf that I blended in.

The PF also had bad ball swirl marks like most WMS em's and I have them gone over those areas withteh magic eraser

The PF looks pretty good now however I want to ensure that it is all protected when I put it back together and attempt to get it going

so any help or pointers would be appreciated.

as for the burns Tony they are half what they were a year ago and the hair was about a third of its length

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2009, 02:39:05 PM »
SORRY TO DISAGREE WITH YOU GAVIN BUT I SAY DONT CLEAR COAT IT MYLAR IT !

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2009, 02:05:21 PM »
I am open to suggestions on either front and would like to  know why some say clear and others mylar?

I can understand there may be an issue with the paints reacting to the clear - i used acrylics

Mylar would certainly be easier to apply

Can you buy it in Australia or do you need to go OS? I have a roll from a while back but want to get new stuff

thanks for the input

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2009, 02:08:44 PM »
Gday Ric
I will shortly being doing my 1st ever touchups on one of my EM playfields so am very interested in this thread, which way you decide to go, and pics of your PF when finished.

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2009, 02:11:28 PM »
Didnt use CC on the LW playfield - because this was strictly a touch up job, i only protected what i had to.
The original finish is a linseed based finish.

 I used 2 pac polyurathane which is available at Bunnings thinned down in an airbrush.
9 years down the track and the work is still solid - no more wear to the kickouts - i only sprayed these areas.
 I also used standard acrylics to do the touch ups.
Not one person at Expo could spot the work... i even got accused of being a liar.... now that IS a compliment!

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2009, 02:26:37 PM »
Yes certainly is testament to your work Gav.

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2009, 02:55:31 PM »
the two pac poly sounds very interesting

Gavin - I know this is asking a lot however do you have anywhere where you have posted how you did this or can you recommend which 2-pac poly to use?

I have some old PF's that I would like to try this out on before trying it on the Super Star

I pretty much know that the pop/jet bumpers is what needs to be protected with other areas most likely not needing the same attention.

thanks for the help

Once I start I promise to try to photogrpah the progess

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 03:14:15 PM »
RIC. JUST LOOK HOW GOOD MYLAR LOOKS, THIS IS THE LAST PIN THAT I MYLARED .
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=1235.15
WHY I PREFER MYLAR OVER PAINT !
1. MOST CLEAR COATS GO YELLOW OVER TIME, THEN HOW DO YOU REMOVE IT ?
2. YOU CAN ALWAYS RETAIN A HIGH GLOSS WITH MYLAR BY POLISHING IT, eg CUT & POLISH
3. CLEAR COAT MUST BE PAINTED IN A WARM , DUST AND WIND PROOF ENVIRONMENT.
4. CLEAR COAT CAN LIFT OR SMUDGE ANY NEW WORK THAT WAS PREFORMED.
5. ONE SLIGHT TRACE OF OIL OF ANY KIND ON THE PF AND THE CLEAR COAT FINISH LOOKS LIKE PUDDLES.
6. YOU DONT HAVE TO MASK UP ALL GLOBE HOLES OR TARGETS.
THERE'S A GUY I KNOW WHO CLEAR COATED A TERMINATOR 2 AND THE PAINT STARTED LIFTING ON MOST OF THE PLASTICS ON THE PF. SO WHAT DO YOU DO NOW ? VERY VERY HARD FIX .

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Re: Sydney - Clear Coat
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2009, 03:25:44 PM »
Holy Crap - that's mylar - I would have said polyurethane for sure

I am leaning mylar as my work area is an old garage - and it gets pounded by wind and the dust gets in too

does Mark C sell mylar?
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