Restore of my 1972 Williams 'Winner' EM

[Homepin]

I have started the restoration of my Williams Winner EM machine. For those interested I have a few pages of notes and pictures here:

http://homepin.com/winner.html

More info as I progress.

[MartyJ]

Looking very good.  Some of the pics on the 3rd page seem to be out (cab respray ones!).

[Strangeways]

This is an awesome game. I will add one to my collection in the future. In the meantime, I'll follow this thread with interest.

So far, I'm impressed with what I've seen 

[ddstoys]

Love the look of this game anything with mechanical animation are so cool

[Strangeways]

Love the look of this game anything with mechanical animation are so cool

This machine is not only JUST a pinball. Williams did some really cool things around this time. The theme was popular - how can you go wrong with horse racing ? But the horses under the playfield made the game more "frantic", as you were concentrating on the ball in play AND the horses.

I also loved Zodiac, Miss-O and Planets. Winner was the "pick of the bunch".

[shansta]

Thats one cool looking machine! 

I think Williams made a few horsey pinballs? - have to dig out my old pinny book for some photos...

[Retropin]

Hey Homepin,,

Some useful info for you.....

The missing "chime" was your "knocker" for when you get a replay or special etc.

The silver flecks of paint or black stringing etc were put on a lot of machines that were stenciled... the idea was that it detracted the eye from stencil overspray or registration mistakes. In other words - the stencilling was not a perfect method and each machine will be slightly different, the flecks "broke up" the joins in the various layers of paint.

NICE machine BTW!!!

[Homepin]

Hey Homepin,,

Some useful info for you.....

The missing "chime" was your "knocker" for when you get a replay or special etc.

The silver flecks of paint or black stringing etc were put on a lot of machines that were stenciled... the idea was that it detracted the eye from stencil overspray or registration mistakes. In other words - the stencilling was not a perfect method and each machine will be slightly different, the flecks "broke up" the joins in the various layers of paint.

NICE machine BTW!!!

Thanks for the info - I guessed that was the idea behind the 'flecks'.

The free game knocker is actually inside the front door. In the backbox is a bell about 100mm in diameter. The circuit diagram shows a single chime coil rather than the 3 I might have expected so I really do believe it is where the chime unit used to be. This would be in keeping with the circuit diagram. Anyway - I guess I'll find out soon enough when I crank it up! I'll keep you posted.

When I was repairing these games many moons ago we often removed the chimes units as shop owners would complain about the repetitive noise.

[Homepin]

Looking very good.  Some of the pics on the 3rd page seem to be out (cab respray ones!).

My apologies to some who were unable to view some of the pictures (mainly users of IE). I have now corrected the pictures so they show using IE - cheers

www.homepin.com/winner.html

[pinballnz]

Hi
I have the similar themed game called Hayburners 2. The difference is that the mechanical horses are in the head and was made in 1968. Pics of my game are at this link.
http://pinballnz.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=3613740

Pinball database link here
http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=hayburners+2&searchtype=quick#1143

Bizarrely when my kids friends come to play ( 10yrs and under ) they love to play this game first  even with dot matrix games close by!

It has 2 electronic sound boards in it. One plays the race starting music when you power up and play a game. The other one doesnt work which I believe is the sound of hooves.

A very open playfield but good when playing 2 player and you have selected horses.

I also have Zodiac which also has the centre ball shooter  but this game is currently stored.

[Homepin]

OK - I have put up a reasonably big page of pics and story. Starting to get to the electrics now - well the more obvious stuff like burnt motors!

Restore starts here:

http://www.homepin.com/winner.html

and for those that have already seen the other pages the new page is here:

http://www.homepin.com/winner4.html

don't forget to refresh your browser

[ddstoys]

Thats some crazy work right there.    Re making your own coils too good.      Wish i had a laser cutter possibilities would be endless

[Homepin]

Thats some crazy work right there.    Re making your own coils too good.      Wish i had a laser cutter possibilities would be endless

Actually it's not really that hard. You could cut the thin ply with a sharp modellers knife, or use plastic? The laser certainly makes things neat and fast and repeatable!

I have a spare A4 sized laser machine that cuts and engraves and it would eat this job (brand new in the box) if anyone is interested?

[Strangeways]

Thats some crazy work right there.    Re making your own coils too good.      Wish i had a laser cutter possibilities would be endless

Making your own coils is HARDCORE - I like your style  

I have a coil winding machine here somewhere - Now I have a reason to look for it !

[ddstoys]

Thats some crazy work right there.    Re making your own coils too good.      Wish i had a laser cutter possibilities would be endless

Actually it's not really that hard. You could cut the thin ply with a sharp modellers knife, or use plastic? The laser certainly makes things neat and fast and repeatable!

I have a spare A4 sized laser machine that cuts and engraves and it would eat this job (brand new in the box) if anyone is interested?

Whats an a4 laser machine worth???