my williiams em swinger will not advance to ball 2 or second player.

[studley67]

  the ball is served for ball 1,on draining it counts bonus,pause,then counts bonus again and again.does not serve up second ball.any help would be appreciated.my first em repair,damien

[ddstoys]

Hi Damien
                  Sounds like a stepper issue.  Take a look inside the macine either in the headbox or inside the cabinet and manuall try advancing each stepper units im not sure what it would be called maybe ball count???

There is a thread in to 1on 1 section about rebuilding steppers if that does turn out to be your problem

[studley67]

 $#$your a hero.i didnt even know i had a ball count stepper,it was hidding in the backbox.i moved it manually and pinged all the wipers and hey presto it is now working.i will give it a propper overhaul tomorrow as per your thread in pinbal 101,a big thanks damien

[Strangeways]

Another repair by the resident EM Guru - Credit to the hobby Daniel 

[Retropin]

Thats not fair!!! I didnt even get enough time to reply...


Try the stepper in the back box..




I feel better now

[Strangeways]

Thats not fair!!! I didnt even get enough time to reply...


Try the stepper in the back box..




I feel better now

join the club !

[ddstoys]

Thats not fair!!! I didnt even get enough time to reply...


Try the stepper in the back box..




I feel better now

join the club !

SORRY GUYS.         But im glad you got it sorted Damien.  90% of ems problems come from either the stepper unit or the score reels once you have rebuilt all of these you will have years of trouble free play 

[studley67]

hi all,do not fear i am new to em repairs,and have plenty of faults,questions etc

cleaned ball count stepper
now ball in play lights don`t work p.s have schematic but am having a hard time understanding it.everthing seems joined to everthing else

[Strangeways]

hi all,do not fear i am new to em repairs,and have plenty of faults,questions etc

cleaned ball count stepper
now ball in play lights don`t work p.s have schematic but am having a hard time understanding it.everthing seems joined to everthing else

Sounds like when you reassembled, the wiper blades did not line up. You most likely will see a "flash" of the "Ball in play" as you move from one ball to another. You can reset the stepper to Ball 1. Now look to see if the wiper blade is making contact with the corresponding wiper button.

[ddstoys]

Beat me that time Nino 

[studley67]

i didn`t dissasemble only cleaned the fingers and scotchbrite the board.found that all controlled lamps were not working.so checked said schematic and found a common n/c swith on the tilt relay to all lamps.appered closed but was dirty.cleand and all ok,thanks i`m slowly making progress,damien

[Strangeways]

i didn`t dissasemble only cleaned the fingers and scotchbrite the board.found that all controlled lamps were not working.so checked said schematic and found a common n/c swith on the tilt relay to all lamps.appered closed but was dirty.cleand and all ok,thanks i`m slowly making progress,damien

"Ball in play" lights would be related to the ball count unit.

GI or control lights can be a number of things - as you have found. I would have thought it would be the jones plugs.

That's two repairs you have completed, Damien !

[studley67]

more than 2. it wouldn`t even start up when i got it,a n/c switch on the replay stepper was so wide open i thought it was meant to bo open.not so it could have never closed