My second pin has arrived - Pro football

[Ford Fairlane]

Just got home and YES i got the relay and it looks exactly the same except that the switches arent a mess like mine. Thanks again Daniel, i'll solder that in tommorrow.. Stay tuned for the never ending saga,

A Newb and his Pro Football 

[ddstoys]

Thats Great Rob
      My fingers are crossed for you once this is in its going to run like a dream? 

[Ford Fairlane]

Ok, i have unsoldered the wires but i came across something that looked wrong to me... In the photo below, it shows that someone has soldered a bridge ?? between 2 switches. Ive circle it below. By the way all switches are normally open which goes against wht nino said... just need some clarification before i solder it all together.

Thanks!

[Strangeways]

Just check the original switchstack to see if that jumper exists. If it does not - it needs to be removed.

Not all switches are open - All are normally OPEN, Except a set of contacts with a Maroon/White wire and a Maroon wire. This set is normally closed.

Do you want me to double check on mine, Rob ?

[Ford Fairlane]

That would be great Nino (especially the bridge) but the relay that Daniel sent me, all are open ? I have checked the relay thats already there but the switches are a mess and i just dont trust it at all.

[ddstoys]

Once you work out which switch should be closed you can unscrew the stack of switches and tun it around so its closed and opens when activated. Thats the best part about these ems you can make anything work lol

[Strangeways]

M Relay

Right - No Jumper.

All switches open on the stack other than a set of contacts with a Maroon/White wire and a Maroon wire. This set is normally closed. I think this was the lower set on the stack with two sets of switches.

These pictures are crap - sorry - I think they have to be at a higher resolution ;

No jumper



Stack of 3 switches = All open



Stack of 2 switches= One Normally Open the other Normally closed

[ddstoys]

On the stack of 2 Nino is it the one closest to the coil that is closed?

[Ford Fairlane]

Im really sorry but i looked at it how it is set up currently and am more confused then ever ... i really think that the previous owner has taken it all apart and guessed how to put it back.. forgive my art skills but below is the way it is set up at the moment if you look from above. The black dots are where the wires are soldered on.. the colours are as i see them but they are very filthy so i might be very wrong.

[Strangeways]

On the stack of 2 Nino is it the one closest to the coil that is closed?

All switches open on the stack other than a set of contacts with a Maroon/White wire and a Maroon wire.

Sounds like either the relay is not the "M" relay, or there have been some creative mods done to the machine. I'll double check in the morning, Rob and give you and exact diagram

[ddstoys]

This M relay didnt come from a pro football by the way not even sure what the headbox was but it was a 4 player. If he turns one of the normally open contacts into a normally closed one and wires it up like yours Nino finger crossed it will work

[bossninja17]

Rob,
When you finish the Pro Football, treat yourself to one of these:
http://arcadenovelties.com/cgi-bin/store/cpshop.pl/an/arcadenovelties/5874708

[Ford Fairlane]

Rob,
When you finish the Pro Football, treat yourself to one of these:
http://arcadenovelties.com/cgi-bin/store/cpshop.pl/an/arcadenovelties/5874708

  thats awesome.. it will go in the same fire as my pin  not yet though ...

[ddstoys]

SO you worked out that coil yet Rob?

[Ford Fairlane]

nah mate had to walk away from it else i would of kicked it a few hundred times...  im sure this relay in the back box has been hacked within an inch of its life with bent swithes, bridged switches and wires soldered wherever. This ones gonna be tough and the fact i cant read schematics makes it that little bit tougher