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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2010, 07:01:03 PM »
Gday Mark .
This is going to look fantastic when completed.
Sure looks like you are keeping up to your high standard with this one  *%*

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2010, 10:41:15 PM »

I think I might be able to help out with the top ball arch (4 metal pieces). I have a Recel (gottlieb parts) Space Race. If the parts are the same, they are yours.

I know it is in storage - I'll see if I can have a look over the weekend and confirm

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GReat progress BTW  #*#
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« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2010, 12:36:13 AM »
...... a few developments. I have managed to get a Wedgehead, courtesy of 'cardini' (..the 'other' forum) which has scrubbed up real nice. I bit the bullet and ripped off the front panel as it was real sad. I made a new piece and it looks like a different head now. I'll put up some pics soon.

.... tonight was also the night when I drilled the holes on the 0-9 unit, for the extra rivets/wiper which will make a Bank A Ball 0-9 unit behave as if it was a Kings & Queens 0-9 unit. Several holes had to be drilled and I was sweating on this part, as it's the critical part of modifying a 0-9 unit. ... if the holes aren't in the right place, then the right contact/s are not going to happen. I think I got it right, but will know more after I put it back together, after the re-wiring of the unit.

...Still looking for a Gottlieb 5 ball push up cabinet, the arch metal (4 pieces), RHS timber piece which is RHS piece of the ball shooter lane... I reckon the cabinet is the last of the main parts I'll need, and I'd sure like to use an original Gottlieb box, without having to get one made up. We'll see... Cheers, Mark

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2010, 09:11:25 AM »
Keep up the good work mark  makingreat. Progress with this one

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2010, 09:55:42 AM »
That's good news on the cab - look forward to more pictures of your progress.

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2010, 04:20:05 PM »
....a few pics

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« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2010, 04:41:02 PM »
The pics below: there's a 'before' and 'now' pic of the wedgehead. I took the front panel right off and made a new one from plywood I got at Bunnings. There's also a pic of the 0-9 disc with the new rivets added, and the wiper with the additional snow-shoe wiper added to that.

...... I did encounter a few problems when I was re-wiring the disc. The original disc is an arch shape, and is a 4" disc. The disc I used is circular and is a 3" disc. The problem is that with the arch style, there's room for some wires to be sent to the outside of the disc and not touch any rivets on the actual circle of rivets. I first thought that these rivets which were not part of the circle all connected to the rivets on the circle/s. Most do, but not all, as I found out when I began the re-wire. The solution to this was to just solder one end of these wires where they should be, and then just let them 'fall' below the level of all the connectors on the outside of the circle. I can either solder them straight to the incoming wire/s, or add a small bracket with connectors on it and solder these wires to that, and then join with the incoming wires. ... I'll leave it a while and see.

Now that I see how to do this job, I may start again if I can find an arch and wiper that are the same size (4" on original). The main thing for the disc is that it should have as many rivets on the two outside circles as possible. ( I can rivet in the 5 rivets on the small circumference within the two main 'circles'. The main thing for thw wiper is that it should have 3 pairs of wipers, spaced at 120 degree intervals. If anyone has such an arch/wiper I'd like to buy it. Then I'll have another go at 0-9 mods. It will work as I have done it at the moment, but I'm not too thrilled about running some wires straight off the back of the 0-9 unit, to the incoming wire/s. I'd also rather not 'add' any bracket etc to make these wires 'stable' and hard wired to any bracket I may come up with.

The main thing is that I've managed to make the 0-9 unit behave in exactly the same way as the original, with exactly the same wiring configuration. ...It took me two days and one night to complete the mods on the 0-9 unit. ...I always go slowly, ... especially when it's a 'first time' type repair, as in this case.

Now I can begin the re-wire of the head. ... looking for a wiring harness off of any electro-mechanical machine. Is there one out there? ... Cheers, Mark

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2010, 10:27:47 PM »


Here's what you were after - see pic

I also have the timber pieces for the ball arch side pieces.  The metal arch has surface rust and the paint has lifted - it will need to be cleaned up and powder coated. Better than nothing  ^^^

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2010, 11:03:59 PM »
It looks fine to me. Thanks for answering the call.   

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2010, 11:15:12 PM »
Good work Nino  ^^^

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2010, 10:28:51 PM »

Mark - I have what I beleive you were after - the wooden playfield sections ?

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2010, 02:27:18 PM »
Hi Nino, The wooden pieces are just what I need. ... fantastic. Thanks for taking time to dig these out too. Mark

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2010, 02:35:40 PM »
Hi Nino, The wooden pieces are just what I need. ... fantastic. Thanks for taking time to dig these out too. Mark

Anything else you might need, Mark ?
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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2010, 09:26:42 PM »
Hey Nino, .... since you asked, ... the metal piece that goes across the back of the head. This is where the back door 'sits' inside the head...  and I'll soon be needing a new or near new set of flipper plungers with the bakelite strip attached. (to suit the 60's style of flipper linkages you have already offered me.) ... Geez Nino, don't get me started!! ... All I've done for the last 6 months is either buy parts/look for parts/been given a few parts. ...I'm actually 'tired' from worrying about parts. ... but your help has been invaluable, and will enable me to finish the playfield. I finished the 2nd colour of the head today. Still to be clear coated. Wiring the head is going well and slowly, mainly because I don't have enough of the right wiring. I'm starting to see some logic in the mass of wires now, and am less daunted than before. .... I'm reminded of the old saying .."a little bit of knowledge in the wrong hands is a dangerous thing." I'll put some up to date pics up soon. Cheers, Mark

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Re: kings and queens
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2010, 10:29:25 PM »

Unfortunately I don't have the rear channel, and most of the plungers / links I have a worn. I think you can get the kit from PBR minus the pawls (which I'm sending to you).

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