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Offline RottyGuy

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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #795 on: October 27, 2012, 06:03:52 PM »
The size of that LCD is terrible. It's not a pinball, it's not a video game. It's some kind of mix between the two. Good luck to them, but i hope Stern
doesn't go down the same path and bring out a display that size.

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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #796 on: October 27, 2012, 07:52:28 PM »
The size of that LCD is terrible. It's not a pinball, it's not a video game. It's some kind of mix between the two. Good luck to them, but i hope Stern
doesn't go down the same path and bring out a display that size.

I sort of agree ill have to see it in person.

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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #797 on: October 27, 2012, 09:53:52 PM »
U miss all the movement action from the dot matrix which never stops moving.

I reckon the best of the best would be to have both in a ideal world. But unrealistic cost wise.

Someone did say women over 55 years old at casinos was the target market for woz, maybe the big LCD screen is for them.....lol.  It will look a lot better in person I think, especially if there is a lot more movement during gameplay. Something tells me jjp game two will have various changes ?
....dying to see the whole machine in person....aren't we all.lol
« Last Edit: October 27, 2012, 09:58:12 PM by Caveoftreasures »
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #798 on: October 29, 2012, 07:42:30 AM »
Those with Facebook should look up Ministry of Pinball, heaps of factory photos to drool over
About 40 machines in some manner of assembly

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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #799 on: October 29, 2012, 08:06:35 PM »
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Those with Facebook should look up Ministry of Pinball, heaps of factory photos to drool over
About 40 machines in some manner of assembly

Very nice!!!

Can't recall if anyone has mentioned this before but has anyone noticed the saying under the LCD has changed from 'there's no place like home' to 'Follow the yellow brick road'?
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #800 on: October 30, 2012, 02:49:13 PM »
The game was at Expo and I had the pleasure of looking at it very closely and playing a buch of games. The finish quality is outstanding and this game is absolutely loaded. Think Twilight zone this is going to be very deep rules wise.

Servicability is awesome Jack being an operator there has been a lot of attention to detail paid here.

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« Reply #801 on: October 30, 2012, 03:05:07 PM »
Those with Facebook should look up Ministry of Pinball, heaps of factory photos to drool over
About 40 machines in some manner of assembly

wow that page has a tonne of pictures, from right up close plastics shots and playfield realy in detail, and other pinball projects as well. great page
http://www.facebook.com/MinistryofPinball
and keeps you upto date on where the machine is atm


going by this picture, Stern can no longer call them the self the only pinball manufacturer any more, thats allot of pinball
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« Reply #802 on: October 31, 2012, 02:13:34 AM »
** there were several things that JJP said at Expo which were both expected and unpleasant to hear...
.....thats pinball.....

1.
they will ONLY have apx 1 x dozen games built by mid November, because they have only got 80 percent of the basic code finished, and WONT be building games until the code is fully finished.
 WHY THE HUGE DELAY STILL YOU ASK ?..... This is because the main computer board has been built into the bottom of the WOZ cabinet, which i see is a big big mistake, because with Stern, u can build a thousand games to completion, without code, and the 2nd last step before testing n boxing a game is to upload code via a USB stick to the computer board, or even add the boards if u had to, which is how u overcome having to WAIT N WAIT N WAIT for finished code before u can even build a game. This is why Stern builds boards into the headbox and hasnt got the code before production process, ass about face....also, servicing in that confined WOZ cabinet, both for production and after production, looks like a complete nightmare, even reaching in with a USB stick means glass off, playfield up, cabinet metal box open and lid removed, etc etc etc. Stern is a 5 minute job with translite removal only !  @.@

2.
game manual wont be ready n wont be shipped with WOZ game, because it wont be ready ! only avail on the LCD, which you will have to play with to work out how the menus work, without the user manual.  @.@

3.
game wont be shipped with final code, will have to uploaded later (like some Sterns). Dissapointing but expected even though its been 2 years.
JJP thinking USB stick, avail over internet. no big deal, but it confirms what i thought would happen code wise. It wont ship with finished code although that was the initial plan/promise. It would be nice if someone oneday shipped a game with almost finished code versus several updates which are painful n time consuming, plus it gets rid of your highscores and u have to keep relearning the game n new rules etc.  An industry problem I guess.BUT worse with the WOZ hardware n glass removal plus plus plus...

4.
JJP is wanting to see in November how this game performs coinwise on location to see what earnings could be expected for operators ?  but wont these figures be unrealistic given local WOZ fans who have ordered a game, or have waited 2 years to see n play one will drive to it once the location is made public, and bump the figures right up versus it being sited at a real test location unknown to hardcore fans and just for joe public to play n test etc ??  Who will play a WOZ onsite realistically, given most people who watched the movie when younger are all now 65 yrs old, or older ??
..on looks alone, will normal Joe Public walk up to it with money or just walk by....my money is walk past, but JJP thinks the exact opposite..how, I am not sure they believe that, but they are confident it will do well onsite, where Stern believes it will definately will not do well onsite...time will tell.

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JJP still hiring at the pinball manufacturing plant...... early to mid december before production really starts, then u have Xmas break, and all the teething problems on the production lines, plus shipping times in the new year etc.

THIS GAME IS STILL A MINIMUM OF 4 months to 6 months away, realistically.....

Jersey Jack must cringe everytime someone asks when the game is going to ship...and will it be this year to the mass market of home users, which he must know inside with all the stuff written above aint going to happen. I think it would be best if they just came out n said 2013 realistically so people know now, before Xmas comes n goes n people get their hopes up n then sigh with an expected dissapointment.

JJP are doing their best. What can u do, except use hindsight for the next few good JJP games.... ^^^
« Last Edit: October 31, 2012, 12:13:20 PM by Caveoftreasures »
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #803 on: October 31, 2012, 03:36:28 AM »
6.the USA does not stop for Xmas like we do, they may close for a week , but then it is back to work

at least now he can blame the storm ;)

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« Reply #804 on: October 31, 2012, 04:23:55 AM »
7. do we all get more impatient as we grow older.lol

8. probably.lol  %.%

Storm, what storm.  #@#

I would be more worried about who or who doesnt win the USA Presidency.

Who will be better for Pinball and business in general, Obama and the Democrats...or Romney and the Republicans..... !@# I think its going to be a bleak 4 yrs of business regardless with little consumer confidence til the JuLiar Gillard Government is thrown out of OZ.... *)*  only our American friends can give us some USA insight but I predict a bleak outlook financially in the USA no matter who gets in...just like here...everyone is holding onto their spare coin for shaky times ahead..business everywhere is down alot...along as Stern stay open, I will be happy.lol
« Last Edit: October 31, 2012, 04:29:43 AM by Caveoftreasures »
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #805 on: October 31, 2012, 06:57:46 AM »
I hope they (JJP) are on high ground, that Sandy is ripping through Jersey and New York raising waters etc. The last thing JJP wants / needs is factory flooding.


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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #806 on: October 31, 2012, 07:40:07 AM »
Those Americans are a crazy bunch.
Anyway, happy Halloween.
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #807 on: November 01, 2012, 12:41:50 AM »
So no delivery by Xmas now ? What a surprise that is   *.*. Not  good pratice to take customers money, but continue to change the delivery date.
Why don't they stop the B/S and come out with an honest expected delivery date.
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #808 on: November 01, 2012, 08:35:29 AM »
So no delivery by Xmas now ? What a surprise that is   *.*. Not  good pratice to take customers money, but continue to change the delivery date.
Why don't they stop the B/S and come out with an honest expected delivery date.

Kinda similar to what I expressed a few posts back about good business practice.
I agree 100 million %
What JJP would be better off doing is make a statement and just say it as it is - now.

If I am buying something and the seller puts a date in my head then as a consumer ( like ALL OF US )  I 'expect it' on or around that date........once that date passes and a few weeks go by and I hear nothing - then I start to get really aggravated........NOT good business practice.

On the flipside, I have purchased drums in the past that when I ordered I was told up front that I had to wait 8 months to get, even though the wait was going to bother me , I accepted it and waited it out - 8 months later I had the tom I had ordered - no problem. I am currently looking at a vehicle that has a 12-14 month waiting time on it........the  company has told us this well and truly up front , again no problems , I now have a choice to make but at least my ‘expectations’ are not being over-exaggerated by the seller.
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #809 on: November 01, 2012, 09:27:36 AM »
Jack's ok , they are all well .
The power is still out .
No flooding.