Wizard Of OZ Pinball

[coon82]

say 5000 machines selling at wholesale averaging out at $5000 us each machine, thats only $2.5million us in turnover before tax and costs, how many employees does he have? there is no way the man makes a cent profit on that operation. yes stern needs to pick up their game not to compete with JJP but to keep surviving, on the numbers Gary has quoted him self. there are massive overheads industry,  i cant even see how he pays him self.

Good point.
I wonder how the 5000 machines is spread across the various titles? The only set numbers to accurately go off is the LE's.

[Freiherr]

Be wary of the words "at least".
Amazon is another company that uses this phrase and does not disclose actual numbers. In Stern's case it could be 5001 or 10001 it is anyone's guess. Only Stern knows the exact number.
I just came from a shop which had an "up to 70% off sale". Only one item was 70% off. The rest were mainly 10% off.

[GORGAR 1]

Gary's not telling the truth lol I just watched an interview where he said sales where up 35% in 2012 so they'd be selling more 10-15k he just doesn't want to give out figures.

Peter

[GORGAR 1]

Gee this is getting boring who has there WOZ yet? Hasn't it been 3years? Man I like hobbit but I'll wait until 2015 to see it first lol,  yeah yeah shinny pf great build quality but that means nothing if you don't have your game, the money's better off in the bank making interest than giving it to jack for 3 years oh hang on jacks made the interest lol

Peter

[GORGAR 1]

Weird I know but let's face it acdc would have sold at least 5k units on its own and there's a feb run coming up and that's nearly sold out on pre sales so not sure why he does it but he's telling porkies lol but then sterns never given out sales figures :-)

Peter

[GORGAR 1]

We better get back on track with WOZ lol has anyone in OZ received advice when there game will arrive? It must be frustrating.

Peter

[Freiherr]

Gee this is getting boring who has there WOZ yet? Hasn't it been 3years? Man I like hobbit but I'll wait until 2015 to see it first lol,  yeah yeah shinny pf great build quality but that means nothing if you don't have your game, the money's better off in the bank making interest than giving it to jack for 3 years oh hang on jacks made the interest lol

Peter

Are they ready for the third title yet?

[GORGAR 1]

Gee this is getting boring who has there WOZ yet? Hasn't it been 3years? Man I like hobbit but I'll wait until 2015 to see it first lol,  yeah yeah shinny pf great build quality but that means nothing if you don't have your game, the money's better off in the bank making interest than giving it to jack for 3 years oh hang on jacks made the interest lol

Peter

Are they ready for the third title yet?

Pre sale next month lol no title so your buying a title that's not thought of yet :-)

Peter

[Pop Bumper Pete]

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[Strangeways]

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[GORGAR 1]

From 10/1/2011

[joele]

Gee this is getting boring who has there WOZ yet? Hasn't it been 3years? Man I like hobbit but I'll wait until 2015 to see it first lol,  yeah yeah shinny pf great build quality but that means nothing if you don't have your game, the money's better off in the bank making interest than giving it to jack for 3 years oh hang on jacks made the interest lol

Peter

That's what I thought when I saw the preorders for thes eJJP games here..

Yes the game is cheaper if you prepay, may not turn out as big a difference as expected though, depends on sales and units available, but you could be the one earning interest or dividends and capital growth on that money for the 2-3 years...

[coon82]

Quote from: GORGAR 1 on Today at 12:45:44 PM
Gary's not telling the truth lol I just watched an interview where he said sales where up 35% in 2012 so they'd be selling more 10-15k he just doesn't want to give out figures.

Peter

really what company tells its clients sales are worst than they are?? lol 
if your telling the other company false figures it doesnt even make sense. and the repercussions of that is customers hear the same BS info.

would be the first company i know that tells people a product is selling worst than it is.
most company's tell every one the sale are fantastic and high. if he is going to lie about numbers he would be better off saying they are higher than they are.

the sale are probly up at 35% @ 5000 games sold.
it is after all the year of their most successfull gAME acdc,

I initially thought the figure seemed low considering Stern recent success, but if that's the game Stern want to play, good luck to them. Not sure what it achieves ??? Gary cannot even give an honest answer about his favorite pin. He just says his favorite is whatever their latest is in production. Geez you can give an opinion even if you are a salesmen. It would make him appear a bit more genuine at least (IMO).

Back on topic. With the most recent delays (finishing code and redoing a board) even Jacks patience must be wearing thin. It must be putting the brakes on further sales. With the release dates being pushed out more and more I think timing wise they would have to start delivering machines before the upcoming release of Oz: The Great & Powerful to get the full marketing benefit. Interesting to see you have to pay to play the prototypes on location with basic code. Wouldn't people not generally interested in pinball be less interested to play it later on if they just go off the basic code to date? eg if they just going off first impressions.

[RottyGuy]

Gee this is getting boring who has there WOZ yet? Hasn't it been 3years? Man I like hobbit but I'll wait until 2015 to see it first lol,  yeah yeah shinny pf great build quality but that means nothing if you don't have your game, the money's better off in the bank making interest than giving it to jack for 3 years oh hang on jacks made the interest lol

Peter

Are they ready for the third title yet?

It would not surprise me the way WOZ is going. Quite unbelievable it's January 2013 and still buyers have no delivery date.

[GORGAR 1]

Gee this is getting boring who has there WOZ yet? Hasn't it been 3years? Man I like hobbit but I'll wait until 2015 to see it first lol,  yeah yeah shinny pf great build quality but that means nothing if you don't have your game, the money's better off in the bank making interest than giving it to jack for 3 years oh hang on jacks made the interest lol

Peter

Are they ready for the third title yet?

It would not surprise me the way WOZ is going. Quite unbelievable it's January 2013 and still buyers have no delivery date.

It is amazing how long it's taken sad for investors really

Peter