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Offline Retropin

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« Reply #600 on: July 26, 2012, 08:19:22 PM »
You also have to remember that Jack has had to get a lot of tooling made along the way etc.
Stern have had tooling for decades now and so its obvious that they can pump out a pin quite easily.. this they do but as we saw with the delivered ACDC machines.. the "I"'s are not dotted and the "T's" not all crossed.
Jack makes redemption machines and has had to start from the very beginning to put out a pin.
Im not thinking Gary Stern is smart at all... in fact i bet my arse he is shitting bricks about Jack.
Knowing Stern.. they will see what Jack does and then copy it... Stern law that is

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« Reply #601 on: July 26, 2012, 09:45:53 PM »
Do you think I should demand my money back and buy a cookie cutter B/W title or maybe a half finished NIB Stern?

Absolutely not.
You made a choice and you are happy with it- congrats on that   ^^^

My actual point was that 'manufacturers' in this hobby need to have learnt from past 'big mouthed' mistakes that were made in relation to production of a game instead of running around for months and months sprouting dates. Dates put an expectation into the heads of most people, and when those dates come , go and well and truly pass THAT creates doubt in some people ( potential customers ).

I asked JJP directly last year if he was at all concerned IF he missed dates that the very finicky pinball community would instantly associate it to the MM debacle and he said in emphatic terms straight to my face "I will make the game and make the dates" and actually seemed a bit annoyed I even asked him the question ( like in a how dare you say we might miss dates like El WaynO did type of way ) ..........................yet, now some of his own dates have come and gone and people ( yes US based ) are asking questions, so my question was actually a valid one after all.

Knowing the 'tough taskmaster' market he is selling into  - WHY would any business person want to create that situation for yourself  ^&^

I have always made it well known that I am FAR from a fan of this title but I am not knocking the game as it might play wonderfully , I am not knocking the effort going into it ........I hope it does work out well in the end

I hope that clears up any misconception of the point I was trying to make earlier.
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« Reply #602 on: July 26, 2012, 10:27:01 PM »
I think JJP's lateness on everything gets the extra spotlight because he said he was going to show Gary Stern how its done, so to speak.
Because of that, it was on for young n old from day one with every man and his dog judging the action. So far JJP hasnt handed Gary his arse.lol

Jack must be spewing knowing everyone knows that he is well behind and has also run into the typical pinball production problems.
Maybe he is thinking Gary wasnt such a bad operator after all.lol

Not even 50 million bux can make everything smooth in this industry. So far JJP has run into the witch, now he needs a wizard or two for extra speed.lol
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #603 on: July 26, 2012, 10:40:16 PM »
A couple of clips
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« Reply #604 on: July 26, 2012, 10:46:59 PM »
The machine is going to be AWESOME. There is no doubt about that.

After seeing how cool those clips are etc, I say who gives a F%$K how late it is.lol   Although I have been selling machines, I am still going to buy one.

It is just so advanced.  I am dying to hear all the audio clips tied together with those annimations. Shld be pretty special.

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« Reply #605 on: July 27, 2012, 04:04:32 AM »
@Wotto
Hindsight is a beautiful thing
When WayneO first announced MM, he had no factory, no equipement, no nothing. All he had was the rights
Years down the road it is easy to see that he could not do it

Jack had the experience of building redemption games, Jack knew the realities of building a game for a commercial environment. If he had not had that business, there would have been no way I would have signed on for this game

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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #606 on: July 30, 2012, 09:39:47 PM »
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The machine is going to be AWESOME. There is no doubt about that.

After seeing how cool those clips are etc, I say who gives a F%$K how late it is.lol   Although I have been selling machines, I am still going to buy one.

It is just so advanced.  I am dying to hear all the audio clips tied together with those annimations. Shld be pretty special.

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How many AP members are heading to Bumper Action on the 10th August for the skype link up with Jersey Jack? Should be pretty sweet.
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« Reply #607 on: July 31, 2012, 12:44:31 AM »
Yes should be good.

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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #608 on: July 31, 2012, 02:49:05 AM »
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The machine is going to be AWESOME. There is no doubt about that.

After seeing how cool those clips are etc, I say who gives a F%$K how late it is.lol   Although I have been selling machines, I am still going to buy one.

It is just so advanced.  I am dying to hear all the audio clips tied together with those annimations. Shld be pretty special.

 *%*
How many AP members are heading to Bumper Action on the 10th August for the skype link up with Jersey Jack? Should be pretty sweet.
First I have heard about it

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« Reply #609 on: July 31, 2012, 10:21:48 AM »
I think this is an invitation only event. It is for all the people who have purchased a Wizard of Oz from Bumper.


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« Reply #610 on: August 12, 2012, 08:05:13 PM »
A few weeks ago I mentioned I had seen some really cool stuff that a business on the gold coast had made/produced and this business specialised in all different movie stuff etc.

Here is a quick photo of the nasty old witch head i thought would make a great topper for Wizard of OZ. The studio didnt really allow photos so i quickly snapped off this one to just give you an idea of what sort of really cool stuff these guys have. Hopefully i can lob up to their other small retail location and take more photos of the dozens of different types of cool stuff they have for all different generes. Alien, sci-fi, mythical, movie, cartoon etc.
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« Reply #611 on: August 12, 2012, 08:21:27 PM »
Damn!!!
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« Reply #612 on: August 14, 2012, 05:05:31 AM »
Looks like unless we get our games air freighted we will not get them until next year
Jack is now saying he expects to start shipping in 90 days, plus 6 week on a shipping container put delivery right at xmas

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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #613 on: August 14, 2012, 09:15:14 AM »
Looks like unless we get our games air freighted we will not get them until next year
Jack is now saying he expects to start shipping in 90 days, plus 6 week on a shipping container put delivery right at xmas

Be worth checking the air freight costs - when I was arranging two games from the US, the difference between sea and air was not that huge.
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Re: Wizard Of OZ Pinball
« Reply #614 on: August 16, 2012, 09:47:23 PM »
According to an interview with Jack on US radio, 1st game is only "a few days" out from being on location:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/diy/2012/08/15/mr-belding--dd-radio

Interview starts at the 48-minute mark.

A few of the things Jack said include:

-Game will have 7 speakers
-It cost $2.5 million to develop the game
-They have sold 1200 pre-orders
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