Surfers Timezone Swipe System

[Retropin]

Games... Games/swipes and now just swipes.
Yet its not even swipes.. my guy gets a minimum of 5 games.. maximum of 8 if swipes clear all before... you yourself get 4 games for 1 swipe..... approx 70,000 games with flippers strong.

Figures manipulated to support a story you WANT to be true and posts and terminology changed more than my underpants.

I know you WANT this machine to be a real winner onsite.. but its not and what money the arcade COULD be making they are losing a large proportion of due to a faulty swipe system.
A seasoned player like yourself not noticing the free games you accumulate or maybe its not included in your posts to support a hopothesis you wish to convey.

Yes lets move on and with each post by yourself i shall take a large dose of salt before reading.

All the best to you Brett.. i have never in my posts insulted you but i have displayed a sheer blindness to truth and plain logic.

Ill say no more on the subject....LOL- roll on the next one   

[Caveoftreasures]

Your last post says I manipulate things, another insult, it just goes on and on and on.  
You have promised to say no more on the subject, lets see how long it lasts,........ or will someone else continue to ramble on and keep this flogged to death topic polluting along.

[4_amusement_only]

  What a pisser this thread has been.

When I was down there not long ago, the swipe system only allowed one swipe per minute. Perhaps the even figure of 1200 is the diagnostic allowance of credits permitted per day?

Who knows, but at the end of the day, its great to have a place in Australia where the latest model pinball machines are publicly available to the general public.   

[ausrhino]

When I was down there not long ago, the swipe system only allowed one swipe per minute. Perhaps the even figure of 1200 is the diagnostic allowance of credits permitted per day?

I was there less then 3 weeks ago and spent two full (peak hour) sesssions there. I would like to point out:=

1: As per above - per card - you cannot add more credits.  There is a minute delay with the card.  You swipe - you then cannot swipe for another minute.  You can't just keep adding credits and keep swiping (albeit waiting a minute into your game then swiping - however I saw no one doing this).
2: I never saw anyone playing doubles or triples on the pinball machines. 
3: What hasn't been discussed yet is that 95% of the people that go there get the package deals - esp in the school holidays.  http://www.timezonegoldcoast.com.au/packages.  I normally get the $25 combo and spend 2 hours smashing the games with the kids before we move off onto the dodgems and laser skirmish.  I will have at least 10+ games on the pinball machines that are there - plus the other arcade machines.  The machines that I play on HAVEN"T brought in $1:50 per swipe (from me anyway).  It is far less - considering the package deal and all the other machines and games that I also used my card on. 
4: While I was on them - I found casual traffic flow - but they weren't packed.

Same as 4_amusement_only - I was more then happy to give them my business just to be able to play some of the latest release pins - for a very economical price.

[ktm450]

When I was down there not long ago, the swipe system only allowed one swipe per minute. Perhaps the even figure of 1200 is the diagnostic allowance of credits permitted per day?

I was there less then 3 weeks ago and spent two full (peak hour) sesssions there. I would like to point out:=

1: As per above - per card - you cannot add more credits.  There is a minute delay with the card.  You swipe - you then cannot swipe for another minute.  You can't just keep adding credits and keep swiping (albeit waiting a minute into your game then swiping - however I saw no one doing this).
2: I never saw anyone playing doubles or triples on the pinball machines. 
3: What hasn't been discussed yet is that 95% of the people that go there get the package deals - esp in the school holidays.  http://www.timezonegoldcoast.com.au/packages.  I normally get the $25 combo and spend 2 hours smashing the games with the kids before we move off onto the dodgems and laser skirmish.  I will have at least 10+ games on the pinball machines that are there - plus the other arcade machines.  The machines that I play on HAVEN"T brought in $1:50 per swipe (from me anyway).  It is far less - considering the package deal and all the other machines and games that I also used my card on. 
4: While I was on them - I found casual traffic flow - but they weren't packed.

Same as 4_amusement_only - I was more then happy to give them my business just to be able to play some of the latest release pins - for a very economical price.

Thankyou for sharing your experience, makes sense 

[pinnies4me]

Sounds like $2M per machine per annum might need a bit of tweaking.......

[tonyt]

The above is what I recall from my visits as well. For $25 you get 2 hours of games - you could swipe a game every minute - so that is 120 games you can swipe in two hours. This equates to $0.21 per game, not including the mini golf, laser skirmish etc.

[pinnies4me]

Yes, when I went down to the local Timezone to try out AC/DC they had a similar deal - I think it was $20 for an hour, so I figured that would be better value. I didn't keep track of the number of games I squeezed in though.

[Caveoftreasures]

At Timezone Surfers Paradise, you can swipe more than once per minute because you can swipe 2 or 3 times and set up a 2 or 3 or even 4 player game on all the pinnys when u first stand infront of the machine.

The TimeZone Manager today also confirms that games are $1.50 each on the pinball machines, unless you buy a $35 or $45 card which is time limited. They have also started a deal with 20 games for $30 if u spend the minimum of $30. Otherwise the std price is $1.50 per game.

Anyone can call them on 0755 399 500 and ask if pinball games are a std $1.50 a game for which they will respond yes, unless u buy a package card.

[MPE]

$1.50 a game??? :o

Eastern states inflation right there!

[Homepin]

Here is the EXACT reason I am not interested in their swipe system or for that matter phone plans or any other SHONKY rip-off crap:

"games are $1.50 each on the pinball machines, unless you buy a $35 or $45 card which is time limited. They have also started a deal with 20 games for $30 if u spend the minimum of $30"

OR - if you stand or your head, only on Sunday 21st January in a leap year, AND are wearing a blue tie and pink shoelaces you can have a FREE credit when you spend $50 or more but ONLY if you swipe within 2 nanoseconds of being given the credit.........

Piss off with your 'special deal' crap - it's all WANK!

Same with mobile phone plans - pay $35 a month and get $2 billion dollars worth of calls (between 1am and 1.01am daily)

These clowns are all VERY lucky I'm not in charge of the ACCC or Fair Trading 'cause I would have them all!

[ausrhino]

At Timezone Surfers Paradise, you can swipe more than once per minute because you can swipe 2 or 3 times and set up a 2 or 3 or even 4 player game on all the pinnys when u first stand infront of the machine.

Not when you are on the time limited plans.  I tried and was denied numerous times.  If you just have the recharge cards (money on them - then you are correct and you can swipe several times to add credits).

The TimeZone Manager today also confirms that games are $1.50 each on the pinball machines, unless you buy a $35 or $45 card which is time limited. They have also started a deal with 20 games for $30 if u spend the minimum of $30. Otherwise the std price is $1.50 per game.

Yeah - you are right - it does say $1.50 on the swiper display - however you would have to get your head read (or are a frequenting local after select games) if you didn't buy the time limited packages that offer more value per game .

In essence you have premium players (those that regularly use the recharge cards and pay the top price) and the vast majority that use the time limited packages.  Also the time limited packages start at $20 http://www.timezonegoldcoast.com.au/packages

It would be interesting to see the breakup of prices - but due to the time limited cards being so prevanantly used at that location - you will never be able to get an idea of price per game return (albiet only from the prepaid recharge cards).

You would only be able to determine
1.  Recharge pre paid cards - $1:50 per game (count)
2.  Unlimited play cards (time based) (count) - however your return is unknown as it depends on how many other games the user played in that time frame.

A simple count of games played - or swiped is not going to be able to determine a return based off the above. Albiet you could calculate a base figure i.e. Unlimited cards give a return of .40c per game (due to the high volume of all games played by the user in the time frame) + Recharge pre paid cards (count)

You couldn't state that each game played returned $1:50 - because it hasn't due to reasons shown above.

Would be interesting to see if they even worry about this in their business model - based off they just want people in there playing - I would think turnover is the key - not nessecarily per game quota's (only being used to shuffle lower count games out the door or pushed to the back end of the place)

Food for thought.

[dendoc]

I just got back from Timezone. What a fun topic to discuss.
The pinball deal is $20 for 30 games, no time limit. I've used it over a few weeks.

Took this photo to annoy everyone. Shows how people don't understand the games.
Tron is midway through game and abandoned, Tranformes has 1 free credit on it, and the girl in the middle I didn't know so I didn't ask to move in fear of being arrested for harrasment ( did you want her out of the picture?)

Played Tron for the first time - what a fast machine! so many multiballs, so many free games, such sore forearms and ears - had to leave 1 credit myself as too fatigued ( and the girl left..... )

[Retropin]

Small girl = no big queue

[Retropin]

More confusion..

Cavey... $30 for 20 games

Dendoc... $20 for 30 games