Can anyone name a pinball machine that never ever had a code update done which was a perfect machine, not needing adjustments, I have never heard of one ever.....

Yep... pretty much every machine ever made before about 2003, so about 100 years worth of machines. Code updates were introduced by STERN and accepted by the buyers who were glad for anything coming out of a factory.. any factory.

You the buyers accepted it and now its the norm.. personally i dont like it one bit. As far as im concerned, if it needs an update then it wasnt finished.. quite simple

Gav, the reason I thought that every pinball machine has had code updates after release, is that i have looked up the 40 plus DMD pinnys I have on the Internet Pinball Data Base, and all of them, and all different manufacturers starting from 1989 thru to 2013 have various code updates listed.

So I was under the impression that 99 percent of DMD machines had code updates, and many of them after production.

I wasnt really referring to pre DMD or pre say 1988 cause I dont know how earlier models like my 1978 Phoenix by Williams got updates etc, but can u see what I mean about the IPDB etc ?, was I right about that ??

and how does SS or earlier stuff with Led score screens get updated, is it a rom ?? I am assuming pre SS stuff was mechanical ??

It would be good to know this stuff and I am sure others might be wondering also ??