Message #137135

[noj472]

I think the WOZ pin will be great, but the extra long wait may rub some of the shine off of it. ?

I still think they are a few months away from starting the production line. These boards are still in design and testing, and redesign and retesting stages. Its going to take quite a few weeks, perhaps a few months ? to make 1,000 board sets, once the board design and testing gets finished.

As long as they are here by Xmas, Santa will be v happy.

Yes - it will rub the shine off it for buyers that were there in the beginning. Having said that, this is JJP's first pinball machine. Not everything would run exactly on time. There's always a measure of delays for the first product as they learn the process. I look at it from this point of view - This platform is different from it's competitor's (mass producer of pinball) because it is using modern technology and there are innovations that the industry has not seen since the last innovation around the time of P2K. So there's a huge leap in technology and standards. Now JJP's competitors will be playing "catch up" and complacency is a thing of the past.

As a prospective NIB buyer, I would rather own a pinball with the right theme, rock solid reliability, availability of parts, completed code, real artwork (not Photoshopped rubbish), LEDs that don't fall out, clearcoat that is at least 3 layers with an even finish and most importantly - I want a game that does not have problems straight out the box.

I can wait for JJP, because their competitor has had years to sort out it's problems and has done nothing to address the myriad of problems with their builds.

So if I had paid a deposit for WOZ, I'd be frustrated. It is only natural. Since I have not, I am more understanding of the delays, and the desire for JJP to get it right from "game one".

Well said......totally agree