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Its really sad when pinball people act like this. We all love pinball. Cant we all just get along. I feel sorry for woz purchasers. They have been taken for a quite a ride. I do believe jack will come through. But at what cost to the Pinball community.If jack fails and people are left with no machines ,it will destroy pinball. This would be a lost to everyone. So lets be positive. Any new machines are an asset to pinball. Pc based, em, dmd or what every i personally dont care. People can make there own decisions. I have not ordered a woz. I am glad i didnt. I personally dont like the pay up front for things. I was going to wait and see what they look like and buy of the showroom floor, if a liked it. But i am Not sure when i will see one for sale though.I do hope jjp does well and get things moving along.I also hope Mike producers some australian designed pins.As well as Spooky pinball, Ben Heck, JpopAnd the like.