I think more of us seem to be paying out on this game since Mr JJ decided to install another super LLLLLE. Up to that point people had their gripes and opinions but we were happy to accept that these guys like us love pinball and yes it is their first go and so on..... since then however as we now approach another le most can see this is predominately cash driven. Now people are saying what they really think. This game is a turd. It hasn't helped that JJ has been getting around presuming everyone thinks what they do that this machine is the messiah of pinball, and also the price increase.

I liked in the game room review the mention of the led screen too. Its interesting how stern have reacted to it. I really like how they have slightly changed the dmd on start trek but left it dmd. Interesting to know whether it was from experience and more expert opinion, money driven, or stern giving JJ the middle finger by leaving the beloved dmd untouched.


I think the Toto in the basket figurine has tipped it for most of us.

Maybe.. but I think it was that we wanted this to live up to its promises.. innovative, fresh, new direction but with a lame theme. The constant delays really put the kybosh on this until we were in the end sick of hearing about the game.... I got so bored with it with never having seen one..Mind you.. that is a first so I guess some sort of promise was kept!!
Then the deposits for Hobbit before any WOZ were released etc etc etc.. then Bumper debacle... oh my god, WOZ fizzled out ages ago for me.. its just another machine now that should have happened.. could have happened but never did.

The ball keeps rolling.. and it went past WOZ a long time ago