I am just saying ( Gav ) that a number of us go into these purchases with eyes wide open - expecting to wait and also expecting that Stern will follow through - and they do.

There was so much negativity in the past over code releases/ unfinished game sales.......that I think the last few weeks have really brought things into perspective. At least Stern never goes out stating they will sell the greatest game ever , on time and complete, knowing full well that they cannot. They just get about thier business of releasing a new game every 4 months or so, put it out there for the market to decide on, sell it and then follow up with getting the game up to a state ( that it would appear ) 90+ % of Stern owners are happy with in the end.

I for one am VERY happy with that philosophy and style of business over a snake oil sale ANY day of the week