played it again today Peter (about 5 games). it grows on you bigtime and half the things on the playfield arnt really up and running yet. It has a bit of an old school feel imo. when the ramp is disabled it plays like a cool 70's pin with no ramps just kick outs, drops and captive ball. just a nice feeling game imo and has had a few unwarranted bad wraps. would like a go at an le but like some of the latest Stern titles the pro seems a good buy.

Lukes also has mirrors shaker and a sub and the 360 ring at the end of the right ramp and the pops sound nice and beefy with engine revs. I think he just sold it so I went in for a quick game.

Thanks John for the review :-) on pinside it's starting to get really good reviews to, someone said it may be the next ironman in 4 years :-) Luke has sold that game hope someone in Melbourne bought it I'm hanging to play it! It has a two way ramp yeah? What's that like.

Peter