A lot of greed is a lot of the problem, I love old Stern SS Machines and up until 2 or 3 years ago, no one really wanted them, they were the POOR MAN'S cheap Bally, but as soon as someone stars showing interest in even old clapped out ones to try and get parts for a bring back to life, that most importers/dealers would strip out and destroy, this cash register in there head goes off and suddenly it's worth $1200-$1500 instead of real price $500-700. Yes there are a couple of early stern titles you would expect to pay bigger money for but get real, machines with totally shot playfields and back glasses all of a sudden triple in price as soon as someone starts to reproduce a playfield or backglass for it. So you pay $1200-$1500 for the machine, another 800 to a 1000 for a repo playfield, 500- 600 for a back glass not including plastics etc etc, what the hell. Still say a lot of greed involved, KISS Machines, Bally Playboy Machines Black Knight 2000, etc etc, SO SICK OF HEARING THE WORD "RARE" They are not rare, sometimes hard to find because people hang on to them, but definitely NOT "RARE" Which is another loosely used term by companies.