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Re: Re: Stern announces new KISS pinball
« Reply #435 on: May 31, 2015, 06:21:42 PM »
Funny, everyone keeps talking about the music!
Why wouldn't you just play their music on something better than a pinball machine and play a pinball machine that isn't KISS related? Something that doesn't look like a technicolor yawn!  !*! I will get flack for that.


No flack from me. IMHO the cab art is one of the worst Stern have released. You'd have to be a KISS fan to think otherwise. The original KISS games can get away with the over sized heads, but the colours on this release looks incredibly tacky.

As for the playfield and BG, I think they've done a great job. Far too early to judge the gameplay based on the video that has been released. No doubt it's a winner for KISS fans, but the cabinet makes it a big no for me.
Agree 100% cab art is ordinary..that said, i am not a fan of the band and can't get over the fact they are adults prancing around in makeup. However pf looks amazing and shots look quite good.

Nino, i dont think stern are delusional, they are taking the opportunity as people will buy this stuff for a range of reasons from they like it and think it looks great through to they have to have the best of everything....all of which i have no issue with, just i personally  wouldn't shell the cash for the extras.  There are a few people who have already indicated they have ordered some of the extras, so probably a smart business move from stern.

I concur it is a business decision - and we all know Stern are doing this to make money. It is not JUST this title. I'm not at all pleased with the idea that Stern have to shut down the modders BECAUSE they are not making money out of them. In context, I don't really like mods, but I like the creativity of modders who are in most cases adding mods that should have been part of the game to start with. It is greed. Nothing more, nothing less. Usually, I keep my opinion to myself, but I bought an LE SOLELY because the art package is based on the original line up - well it is a 90% "originals" pinball. So if I see or hear something I don't like, I can be viewed as being "over reactive" - But everyone knows I have a pinball addiction, and the original line up of KISS is my favorite band of all time. I REALLY like TWD LE and even after I gave it a 9/10 I was still criticized. I ALMOST bought a TWD LE - I was very close. So I'm going to be "vocal", and when I see something that is a blatant "cash grab" to slam modders and rip off KISS fans - I'm going to say it. Suffice to say, now I fully appreciate the Stern LE buyer's point about an "LE" not really being an "LE" until Stern release "extras" and "options" that are supposed to be part of the LE to begin with.

KISS fans buy ANYTHING and are cashed up. Certainly, I will be PROMOTING the hell out of this title when it is released - but I would not dare to mention the "extras" and "options". Considering all the LEs are gone, it is a GREAT idea for PRO buyers - but the point still is that the prices on the options are robbery !

It is an insult to LE buyers, but an expensive option to PRO buyers that want to bling their games up to the LE level - ie - make their games unique.

Stern are delusional from the point of view that I'm a first time NIB EXCITED LE buyer. I'm sure I'm going to be bias and love the game - BUT - I'll never buy another NIB Stern - especially an LE - because with Stern, it is an "LE" until the "options" and "extras" are released.

I love everything about the game so far, but I'm not at all impressed with the way they price their "extras". Throw them in the goody bag for the LE buyers and offer the topper for 1/2 price.

They could have included the extras with the LE's ....

but...

you would have ended up paying the same price anyway as Stern would've bumped the price up to accommodate . Would you guys who ordered LE's been happy to have all the extras but have a $12500 or $13000 price tag ?

So there is $2000 worth of value for an LE ?

Mirrored Backglass - $250
Gary Stern signed plaque - $ ? 30 seconds of his time on a piece of cardboard.
Shiney silver decals - $250 - how much more will they cost to print ?
Leftover Trim from Luci - $0 = LE buyers are doing Stern the favor !

I struggle to find $500 worth of value, and Stern want an extra $2000. Makes me look stupid, but I wanted the LE, because it is an "LE". If costs then stuff all extra to add the extras to an LE.

Like I said, I wanted an LE because it was a Limited run. Buy there's no way it is worth $1500 more than a Premium. Throw the extras in the LE - how bloody hard is that ? Add some REAL value and stir up more potential sales..

I'm pumped - I can't wait for mine to arrive. I'm not buying the "extras" etc, but I'm sure as hell going to LOVE unboxing my game - and I have a few KISS fans that will be playing mine before they decide to buy a Pro or Premium. I intend on leaving my game in the showroom for 2-3 weeks so people can play the game and hopefully buy one.

I'm not Stern bashing, but they make so many dumb decisions that it is not hard to be critical.
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