Thanks Chris,

Basically by connecting the common from the extra ball light to the common on the rest of the feature lamps they all work as they are daisy chained by the un-insulated wire going around under the playfield.

If I remove the feature lamp fuse on the tranny board then even the extra ball won't work so power is coming from the bottom of the cabinet, problem seems to be a break in the common coming from the board connector or broken wire.

They have a common wire and a individual wire, it's the common wire where the ground is lost.

Geez I have a hard time explaining my self! but what I really need to know is which pin on the A3 connectors supply's the common ground to the feature lamps?

Cheers: Brettski... :)