Ahhh I get it now, i had it arse about so I am not looking at connectors in the backbox, I need to go to the bottom board and look at the bridge rectifier and the wires there. Can a faulty bridge rectifier create this kind of fault without blowing a fuse?
Thanks guys for explaining it to me. :)
It's a magical mystery tour but getting closer I believe.
Cheers: Brettski... :)