The agitators, most of the time, demanded answers to serious questions and got jack, and threads were shut down.
in hindsight, the answers were obvious
'no, we are still not ready to build games'
but it has always been somebody elses fault
not once has Mike apologized to us for the delays
not once has he owned (the reason for delay) the problem and promised to fix it
and that is why you should never hold yourself up to be Mr Perfect
That's because what was actually happening and what was declared as happening were two different things and all along there was no need for it.. it was the lies and deception that kept biting that arse.
But hey! This is pinball.. its the only industry I know of where people will put their hands deep into their pockets when someone only has an idea and all is forgiven at the release of one good title