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Real nice game Bill and good to see somebody else into woodrails...there are a few of us here.Do you have any other pins from the same vintage?sorry for the late reply ....I have a few of the woodrails, thankfully they are in decent condition ,I have some of the real old pre -flipper, early to late forties(uniteds) not as well engineered as your williams & gottliebs but they are still good solid machines.Ive got a Havana,mexico,arizona...a williams cyclone & dynamite...what about yourself mainly gottliebs?