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Brett - your threats we pretty tame compared to RGP!Wayneo? Some poor guy asked how to build a DIY cocktail cab - your mate jumped down the guys throat... Why would you bother, what an idiot etc. (TPF is selling them complete $1200). That was the last straw IIRC...I can see his logic - why would you DIY for $3-500? - when you can buy one for $1200...