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From my experience buying a container pin off of a private seller,the quality of pins they were selling you wouldnt be called a punter, you would be called a F#@kin MUG for buying their incomplete and not-working pins and while we are on the subject of fake-ebayers what about the little group of shill bidding going on lately,i bid on a couple of ebay auctions one was a judge dread ended up getting a second chance offer $1700,seems not one but three other bidders that bid the item up after me didn't want the machine and it was re-listed the next day.So on that auction you had not 1 fake-ebayer but 3 fake-ebayer's.Anyway it didnt take a brain surgeon to work that out