thanks stevesse.... i guess the sandpaper would make it cloudy what polish do you use after the sandpaper?

It does go cloudy after sanding but all the coarse scratches should be gone.
Now your ramp has heaps of much finer scrathes but then these can just be polished out with novus.
It comes up quite nice and clear.

Even though it appears much clearer, in reality it still will have tiny (?microscopic) sratches all over it from the polish.
I guess this is where flame polishing comes in and removes those microsopic scratches altogether, though I haven't acyually tried it myself yet.

Have you seen this guide on flame polishing?

Cheers
Dave