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the whole thread has gone from a "wind up" or "piss take "to naming people who have nothing to do with anything and including anyones commercial interests serves no puropose.lets argue about pinball machines, lets debate a good or bad ebay listing, lets debate postage costs etc, lets debate our passion for pinball and who loves or hates EM's or SS or dmd, lets argue pinball, but a thread designed to argue with each other has no place here.delete the whole dam thing and lets all move on to something positive i say.