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Playboy 1978 Grotto kick out question?
« on: February 14, 2010, 09:42:47 AM »
I get a fairly weak kickout on the grotto and at times the ball would not come all the way out.

I replaced the coil sleeve yesterday and noticed that the piston (rod) (not sure about the terminology) had a smaller diameter overall but with a plastic band on it as opposed to the same diameter rod all the way through the coil sleeve. Cleaned up and reassembled but still doesnt appear to have much power. 

Looking at the band, I thought it was designed to cope with the angle of the kickout mechanism but I am not sure.

Over to the gurus!

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Re: Playboy 1978 Grotto kick out question?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2010, 10:33:57 AM »

What is the part number on the coil ?

Does the kicker work "smoothly" by hand ? - You can adjust the bracket if there is friction

Resolder the wires to the coil

Can you take a photo of the assembly with the "rod" as explained - I'm not sure I follow.
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Re: Playboy 1978 Grotto kick out question?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 10:58:03 AM »

What is the part number on the coil ? (C-B15-1)

Does the kicker work "smoothly" by hand ? (YES) - You can adjust the bracket if there is friction

Resolder the wires to the coil

Can you take a photo of the assembly with the "rod" as explained - I'm not sure I follow.

C-B15-1 is the coil number. See pics.


Thanks Nino

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Re: Playboy 1978 Grotto kick out question?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2010, 11:06:01 AM »

Look for a marking on the coil - Should be AR-26-1200.

The plunger is correct - it will be an adjustment as the plunger must be perfectly aligned in the coil sleeve and move without any friction. Reassemble, and then watch the action of the plunger be moving the kicker by hand - then bend the bracket and retry - until it moves with the least amount of friction.

Should be as simple fix.
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Re: Playboy 1978 Grotto kick out question?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 12:34:20 PM »

Look for a marking on the coil - Should be AR-26-1200.

The plunger is correct - it will be an adjustment as the plunger must be perfectly aligned in the coil sleeve and move without any friction. Reassemble, and then watch the action of the plunger be moving the kicker by hand - then bend the bracket and retry - until it moves with the least amount of friction.

Should be as simple fix.

Cannot see the AR but the rest is right.
Amazing what alignment and ajustment can do when mechanical leverage is critical.

Working well now thanks Nono.

PS have you got Surefer in your rebuild lineup yet?

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Re: Playboy 1978 Grotto kick out question?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2010, 02:49:38 PM »

Look for a marking on the coil - Should be AR-26-1200.

The plunger is correct - it will be an adjustment as the plunger must be perfectly aligned in the coil sleeve and move without any friction. Reassemble, and then watch the action of the plunger be moving the kicker by hand - then bend the bracket and retry - until it moves with the least amount of friction.

Should be as simple fix.

Cannot see the AR but the rest is right.
Amazing what alignment and ajustment can do when mechanical leverage is critical.

Working well now thanks Nono.

PS have you got Surefer in your rebuild lineup yet?

J.D.

Great to Hear !

Surf Champ is not on the radar at this stage, as I will be doing an SS (Eight Ball, KISS, Fathom or Playboy) after the current EMs (Canada Dry, Star Jet, Mariner & Aces High). Might do a DMD then I can add Surf Champ to the list

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